The Dangers of the Centralized Internet....and A SOLUTION You've Never Heard About

All right, we're live, guys. Wow, this has been an amazing journey for me, guys. I just want to say I'm so inspired uh by your your project, who you guys are, and also to be able to connect my following to people that understand this space of cryptocurrency and blockchain and all the different things happening right now. the huge opportunity and opportunism, you know, the the sort of like uh hype as well as the fundamental value proposition that creating, if you will, a people's internet would do

for the world at a moment when we're seeing all around us. The type of censorship that we probably couldn't have dreamed occurring in our lives because it's very reminiscent of what happened to our grandparents and, you know, former wars. It's just really remarkable. So, having found your project, thanks in large part to Mike, who I know because I've been a big fan of your work out there with Alphabet Vetic. So, of course, when I, you know, pass it to you, please do a little intro for

yourself because you're one of those people that lives the dream of sustainability, not in the UN sense of the term. We're talking about real real authentic regenerative living where you are just truly breathing and and just walking the earth with these principles and that to me is super inspiring and then of course I met Jason through you and now it's been two weeks Jason of non-stop communication. Yeah. Because when I get into something I my inspiration it just feeds me and I just on some level

get totally obsessed with things to try to see is this really true? Could this really be as amazing as I think it is? So, I did my due diligence, guys, and and the people that are on this live stream, I'm so excited because while I'm the founder of GreenMed Info, and I've had my own narrative around deplatforming, so you could say, "Okay, this is about how we can all not get deplatformed." And yes, it does have to do with that, but it has to do with

something that is so much more inspirational for me and that I think is going to probably just jack up your excitement about where we are right now. Uh, which is going to be really healing because we are in a dark window. But just like birth, you go through a really dark and life-threatening passage and we are now seeing the light. So what I'm saying is that Cordal, the project we'll be discussing, is one of a number of projects that is driven by extremely ethical energy and

that is why I'm so excited about it. So I think the listeners can make their own judgments and they'll pick up, you know, your energy and and your expertise and then together we'll see where this goes. So, I know that's a pretty uh you know sloppy intro, but I do want people to know that this is happening because I'm inspired and I want you guys to know about this project. So, it's been great. It's been great since since we've been talking every day. I've been into

it. You've been asking all the right questions and getting into I've just been stoked to talk to you every day. So, it's been it's been awesome. Just wanted to throw that out there. Well, the feeling is mutual, brother, because right now, I mean, again, we're seeing the market in crypto exploding and we're seeing like all this enthusiasm and and everyone's like, do I invest and is this real? Is this is the blockchain going to kill us? You know, like I have which honestly there's definitely truth

to that, too. It's being weaponized and that's even the internet started out as a military project. So that's why having a discussion with you guys on a deep philosophical level, but then also going granular is going to be super exciting. Uh so get your non-GMO popcorn, sit down, get ready, strap in because hopefully this will be really exciting for you. So I'll start and pass it to you first Mike since you introduced me and then you can go ahead and pass it on and we'll get

some really deep questions uh answered here. Well, hey, thanks Ser. It's such a pleasure to be on with you. um been following your work for years being in the alternative health realm and uh it's just been such a wild ride with um with Cordal and with crypto in general and and I like to stay away from the term crypto. I feel like that's really become kind of institutionalized in itself and what we've seen since the uh white paper from Satoshi Nakamoto, we've seen what always happens

with these systems. It seems like things get get controlled, co-opted, centralized, and put right back into the box of what they were trying to counter in the first place. So, we like to call this a decentralized blockchain project. At least that's what I like to call it. What's beautiful about this project is it's like nobody owns it, right? So, I can call it what I foresee it to be and then Jason can call it something else and then tech can call it something else and other

developers and and people that are involved. So, but it that's what's so beautiful about it. But I really like the idea of of it being called like a decentralized blockchain project. Um there is a coin aspect to it of course which we'll talk about which is extremely important. But um the the crypto world has really become like Wall Street 2.0 in some ways. It's really been co-opted. It's really been um it's become its own thing unto itself. And you know it is definitely more empowering than

the than the controlling paradigm uh of the the bankster elites. But there is uh caution. We have to throw caution in the wind here and see like what is happening right now with projects like Ethereum with with the whole 2017 ICO boom and what that created. And we we'll go into that because I think it's important to discuss that stuff. But that's also not to say that we are maximalists in any way that we don't see um uh the need for cooperation and collaboration with other

decentralized projects like that's extremely important as well. My background is interesting because I don't come from a fintech background or come from financials. I don't come from even necessarily really tech. I come I've been an underground house DJ throwing raves for 20 years. Like I've I've been involved in anarchy. I've been involved in philosophy um and in uh entertainment industry. And then of course um myself, Dr. Beerlando who you're familiar with SER uh who we've interviewed you on our podcast and uh our partners we started

Alpha Vadic about god six years ago as a new model for sustainable uh agriculture uh commerce and health and wellness and we are we are radicals we are undaunting in our approach to our radicalism and to um our our viewpoints about decentralization about health and wellness I mean like one of the the big foundational principles behind alphabetdic is that we deny the ideas of germ theory. I mean how radical can you get right and and so um that in turn that's this that's my nature that's

like I've been that way since I was a kid like I I never felt very comfortable in this realm in this world my whole life I always felt a little bit like an outcast like I was trying to fit in. I never got the idea of why money is the way it is. It just always seemed very odd to me. And of course you look at a dollar bill and you see the allseeing eye and it's just like what is going on here? And really the

book the creature from Jackal Island really kind of um shattered my whole perception of what money is in the late 90s. I was in college and I was recommended that from my father and then later Dr. Lando reiterated the importance of that book and we were literally just talking about this book on our podcast yesterday again. We did a whole podcast on the trivia quad on the importance of seeing reality um through logic and we have to use these principles more than ever right now to

see through all the nonsense that's going on in crypto itself too. But you know without getting on too much of a tangent that book really showed not only did it give the beautiful narrative of how money in in US and in the world has been co-opted by these elites who it's essentially a large Ponzi scheme. um by taking us off the gold standard and by essentially privatizing how money is created through fractional reserve banking and all the funny money stuff that goes on in the world

and how it's evolved to where it is now to where it's just like a massive Ponzi, right? That's literally built upon the backs of every person who's born on this planet is the actual um is the is the value metric for the current fiat dollar and is essentially neutralism. And so un coming out of that perspective is like that's daunting, right? That's you start to see this and you're like, "Oh my god, like how could we ever get out of this? It's such a large behemoth.

It's a it's a Leviathan." And um and uh so basically I got into anarchy and I got into alternative thinking and I got in I really enjoyed a lot of the cipher punk stuff that was coming up in the '9s and was really into that kind of uh if you remember that what was that movie hackers and that kind of mentality. I know Jason probably this was him as a kid and like as a kid I had friends we would like hack our um our calculators

and make video games in them and like I remember getting on the first boards on the internet where you had the you you know I'm old I'm 42 years old so I was there in like sixth seventh grade where you had the foam dialup modem where uh you know you would get into a board and that was like the original internet before copyer before um well and before the service providers and that's something we should talk about too today of And that was always like really

cool. I'm like, whoa, we're like connected to these other people in this new realm where we can nerd out and talk about this stuff. And it wasn't controlled by anybody, right? It was just us getting using a protocol to connect. Yes. So, so anyways, fast forward to the 2008 2009 financial collapse and the uh you know the white paper and stuff. I caught on to that pretty early because I was really into that scene. But, you know, I was in my late 20s, early 30s, partying,

throwing raves, like I was saying, doing events, trying to be a a reality TV producer, uh, and and stuff like that. And I was like, that's really cool. I support it, but I don't have time to get into the tech. And then fast forward a little farther, I got into web development. I started integrating Bitcoin into some early e-commerce solutions. And I started doing some mining. U, but once again, really busy and just I'm kicking myself for not getting right into it right away. But uh

it wasn't really to about 2013 when I started really researching blockchain uh and into these other protocols like pure was it Piercoin Jason um NXT and these early uh innovators where I was just like whoa not only is Bitcoin amazing with proof of work but the immutable concept of a blockchain of a true decentralized distributed blockchain was everything to me. It was like what the Egyptians did with the pyramids. It's like that's what we're needing because I was going down a lot of rabbit holes of

truth at that time. Okay, so that hold that one thought because see the thing is is that most people that are from the Greenben Info following don't actually even know very basic terms and even the experts can debate actually on what those terms mean. So I want to give a little insight to the listeners as to why you would be so inspired. And also, by the way, anarchy just literally means without external rule, like the power over principle, right? So, some people listen to that, they'll

be like, "Wow, what is anarchy?" Because the way it's been weaponized against people that are volunteerists or believe in self-s sovereignty is that, "Oh, they're anarchists. They're trying to burn down Starbucks and that's how the media projects it." That's not what that's about. Just so people understand, that's actually a result from statism. Usually, burning down stuff is actually a result from centralization usually. But you're spot on. Well, exactly. I mean the disparities built into the system, the ine inequality, all that is actually being rectified now

by projects like we are talking about. So like I want to give people a little bit more context because I think that a listener might actually be challenged at this point. Um given your incredible background, I understand what it means but I just want more um of a basic framework for the discussion. So for example, right now we have the dilution of the entire monetary system, right, through quantitative easing, trillions of dollars being printed out of nothing, fiat, and it is causing taxation and andor theft

from every existing dollar. So there's a flight into assets like crypto, which is what we're seeing. But there's a dark side to that. As you said, there's a Wall Street 2.0 no effect and there's a lot of um scam coins or just attempts to get easy capital and that's one of the things that court solves. So, I'm I'm not trying to interrupt you because I feel like I want you to complete your full story of how you got to this point, but keep in mind some

people here are going to have no idea what we're talking about. So, yeah. So, go ahead. Well, well, the I think what was so empowering to me coming from and I think a lot of your viewers are people who like to do self-ressearch and find the truth, right? That's why a lot of people are attracted to you because through health and wellness, that's one way that people really wake up is when they get sick and they go to alipathic um practitioners or they they go to

the traditional um uh you know solutions that are provided to them and they don't work and they're like, why are these not working? Why is this the understanded consensus in the mainstream that I should go to this doctor who's going to give me this pill that's going to fix me and I'm getting sicker? And then that basically is an amazing way that a lot of people start to realize, wo, this world is not what we're told when we're, you know, going to school, public school or

or what we see on the television um and all that. And that was kind of um where I was coming from as somebody who was really looking for truth. I was having problems even back then in 2012 2013 I was like whoa even even back then we were seeing manipulation of data uh via these uh I mean Google was already of course a monstrosity right and I saw that they were already back then really manipulating search queries um we were seeing censorship back then already on

even on platforms like YouTube and it was really worrying to me and then when I came across uh NXT was one of the first projects that I came across but actually Cordal has some relationship to a little bit of that functionality a little bit in mentality and concept but it was a a really interesting project uh uh applying a decentralized blockchain and assets and I was just like whoa this idea of a blockchain and I'll explain what a want me to just explain in my terms

what a blockchain is well even before that even the notion of decentralization some people may not understand how basic this concept is so I'll just do a summary right now so basically in a nutshell What we're doing or trying to do with the decentralized web and with cordal is to take away the middleman between transferring information from one person to another peer-to-peer. So when that information is transferred through any device out there except for what I understand Cordal's already done with their Q chat, it's being

captured. It's being vacuumed into some data center probably owned by corporation or government or fascist merger of the two and it will be eventually either turned into capital or weaponized against individuals. So we live in a like omni potent surveillance state and our data is being harvested and weaponized against us. Then you have the exchange of value peer-to-peer. And right now you need a third party, a trusted third party, a bank or whoever, a centralized exchange that you give up your custody of your value, your

coin for even a microscond. It's not yours. And then that is how transactions happen. You guys have solved that problem too through atomic swaps uh you know blockchain to blockchain or cointocoin swapping. That's revolutionary. And actually we were the first ones to do that. the uh it's and we call it ours our our smart contract that does the trades is called acc developers who have contributed on our codebase came up with the term atomic crosschain trade right and that's what ACCT is and that's what we

use and then the the term atomic swap actually came out of the term atomic crosschain trade and they adapted it and called it atomic swap either way it's a similar idea as far as what's being where the value is literally traded directly from one blockchain to another with no centralized party in between. Well, this is exactly what I do and I do with my wife here, which is in medicine, we're trying to take the doctor or pharma, right? The third middleman out of the picture. We

can heal. We don't need an intermediary. The placebo effect, no sibo effects as that surrogate. That's also true for the church. We want a direct connection with God. We don't need a scripture or a priest to do that for us. The same thing is happening here in the information space and in many ways like when I talked to Jason recently it's like kicking the money changers out of the temple literally by taking away the ability of or the need to use a centralized exchange. You guys

are doing this and that's why you'll get it folks. I know you know there's 1100 people here all from around the world. I love that because this is the myelium right here that we're talking about growing. But I don't want to interrupt you any further, Mike. And I definitely want you to switch it over to Jason, too. And uh Yeah. So So please I was just about I was just what I was trying to do is get to where I met Jason. So So basically, you

know, what I saw was like we have massive centralized server farms that are controlled by mega corpse that are basically now dictating politics, dictating our lives. And I was like, well, how can we counter that? And I was always racking my brain about that for a long time because I I was I remember a video I saw in 2002 about Google's or 2003 about Google's. It was done from a university and it was like saying in the future Google and Amazon would combine and run the

world. And this was in 2003 this video came out and I was scaring the hell out of me. And so then I I came across blockchain and this idea that you could have the public have an immutable truth machine that would keep get all the middlemen out, all the guys that come in and want to manipulate truth and manipulate reality for their own purpose, which is what humanity has been facing for thousands of years, right? The kings, the no the the royals um up to now

the Rothschilds or whatever you want to call them, right? So the governments so um I that's when I was like the light went off and I was up every night till 4 in the morning researching blockchain every protocol every consensus algo and fast forward I developed a an algo that I I and we can get into this I saw problems with proof of work which is the well hold on a second because honestly even when you guys started talking to me about algos I didn't even

know what that meant but and also I want to affirm what you're saying which is that because people don't understand blockchain is being bandied about like cholesterol free packaging or whatever. And and what we need to understand is it's truth machine. And that's where you're hitting a really important point that people need to understand is that you know in accounting there's like double what is it book entry and blockchain's like triple book entry. In a nutshell it means that there is an aspect to it that

is immutably um uh present for the whole world to see. It can't be changed or shoved down a memory hole, which is what's happening with the Orwellian ministry of truth process we're seeing right right now. So I just want people to understand that that's what you're talking about in the positive sense of blockchain because then people will understand, okay, this isn't just about Bitcoin and crypto. This has to do with information and all the other things you were saying. Yeah. And and basically there is no

the blockchain. People like to say, especially in the truth movement, well, they're going to use the blockchain to enslave us all. There is no the blockchain. Blockchain is just a new technology. It's a technology within this polarity matrix that can be used for evil. It can be used for great good. And so, and I know Jason will explain more of this and what what led down to his way of seeing how blockchain can be used. But I want to get to Jason real quick. Yeah. Real

quick. And if you could answer either one of you the fact or let me just say that you guys have what I think is one of five unique blockchains. So just so people understand that it's not infinite blockchains. Bitcoin is a blockchain and then a cordal is a blockchain. It was written denovo from code. Is that right? Right. Yes. Yeah. There are only a few platforms that are actually written from scratch. Bitcoin being the first one. Then there was NXT, um BTS, uh EOS, a couple

others, right? But Qual is one of the only ones that's written from scratch. And we did that with intent. Like we didn't just do it because oh we wanted to write this from scratch because we're going to do the same things over again but we're going to do them oh slightly differently. No, we had to do it from scratch because there was nothing else that existed that could do what we ultimately wanted to do. And the only way that we could make that happen was to

literally come up with the concepts and write it all from scratch. And there were multiple cont uh contributors from all over the world that have contributed towards this codebase over the years. And we've been in development for a very long time. and we were finally able to realize these goals and launch the project back in June. So, uh it's something that has been ongoing for a very long time and something that we wrote for uh from scratch for a very good reason to address some of

the core level concerns even with the Bitcoin and other uh blockchains that are out there with the way that they're run. They can lead back to being centralized again. And that's what we're seeing now with Bitcoin and Ethereum is is the recentralization of something that was intended to be decentralized. And and when we say decentralized, we mean that everyone independently can verify everything by communicating to their own computer and not communicating to the outside world to a central server that does any sort of verification. All

the verification is done in a completely distributed way. So everyone can independently verify everything. Yes. Uh Jason, um did you want to explain in your simplest ways what a blockchain is? Because I saw that question come up. I think that's important. Um yeah, I mean essentially all a blockchain is is a database that's encrypted and distributed out to everyone. So everyone can independently verify all the transactions and stuff that's going on on top of that database. It's a secure, unstoppable, immutable ledger that's shared between everyone

so that every individual party can verify everything on their own without the need of a centralized party to verify it. Right? So that's essentially what it is on a base level. It's just an unstoppable database that's shared between everyone, fully encrypted, but yet also shows all the transactions and all the things that are happening on that chain to every individual person for independent verification on their own machine. So if that makes any sense at all. Yeah, for those out there basically the word trustless permissionless that's

really helpful because every other situation you have to trust that for example Telegram or Facebook or WhatsApp isn't just sucking that information and giving it to some person that doesn't like you or wants to take away your rights or something else. That's a trustbased system. What happens with the Qat version is that you guys have taken the blockchain you've created and and and put through what's called an unconfirmed transaction. So the information is passed through. So you're chatting and yet no one but those two people

will ever see that information, right? Correct. No one and no one can have access to it. And that's an amazing accomplishment that if if you were a startup in Silicon Valley, you'd say, "This is a billion dollars worth of code. People pay us." Right. Even just Qat. Yeah. That's just one plugin inside of the UI that that uses the back-end technology and allows for real time communications that is still verified by the blockchain because it is a transaction. Yeah. But it's an unconfirmed transaction which is

issued without the need for a transaction fee entirely because we use a P algo in memory to actually hash before using the transaction. So you can send the messages for free with no no transaction fee and it's not confirmed. So that message will disappear after 24 hours and it's gone forever, right? So yeah, it's something that's totally unique. Ours is the only communication system that does that. Um, and the two parties in that communication, there is no way to decrypt it unless you have the keys

to that account. So it's literally only able to be seen by those unless you have like a quantum computer and you devote all of its power to that one message. Even Yeah. Like it's it's not possible to the information. Can I I know say so backing up the ELGO question right I think this will play into what a blockchain is because it's really important to understand this so how do you have a mut immutable ledger stacking uh stacking blocks that's what makes it immutable because what

the longer they the more blocks that get stacked the more immutable that this piece of information whether that be a transaction some data uh whatever on there is and that's what's another brilliant aspect to the stacking of blocks, right? And so how does that work? Well, it relies on consensus. It relies on people in the network saying, "We agree that that's the truth in that block before it gets set." And so Satoshi Nakamoto, what the brilliant thing that the white paper for Bitcoin developed was a

consensus algorithm uh protocol to basically stop people from faking that out saying um you know a bad actor, let's say, saying I I say it's this truth and someone saying this truth. It's what they call the double spend problem with digital money. And so the proof of work was the original algorithm that would beautifully solve this problem. And I know Jason and I both see immense value in proof of work and see it as an important aspect to crypto. Um and Jason explains proof of work.

Well, maybe Jason if you want to explain that so people that are totally new to this because this is technically what mining is right for the most part. So so the process Yeah. the process of creating new blocks, which all a block is is the next 10 minutes on on a chain or on Bitcoin's chain. We'll talk about Bitcoin just to make it easier, right? So on Bitcoin's chain, the block time is 10 minutes. All the transactions that take place in that 10 minutes get secured

in a block, right? And with proof of work, you you're constantly cranking numbers, hashing SHA 256, trying to uh add that with the difficulty and come out with the longest number with uh 13 zeros at the beginning. Basically, it's like winning a lottery, right? You compete in Bitcoin with that power. So, the people with more power are more likely to win and the winners get the reward from the block and they also get all the transaction fees that happened in that block. Now, see, that's one

thing where it's really cool and it works. But the original idea behind Bitcoin was that people were supposed to be able to mine on their own computer at their own house. The problem is is there's really really intelligent people in the world and they took that algorithm and made it run faster on graphics cards. So, you could put a bunch of graphics cards in one computer now and that runs a lot faster than one CPU. Then they took it a step further and they have a

a single device, a big device like this called a minor. It takes 1500 watts of power running 247 and all that thing does is crank out numbers and try to find Bitcoin blocks, right? And so that's that's cool and also not cool at the same time because now that allows for somebody to come in with a bunch of capital, buy up a huge amount of these machines like we've seen in the huge mining farms in Canada and huge mining farms in China and they can run

and basically take a large percentage of those blocks. And since the block signer, the person who finds the block is the one who actually gets all the payment from that block, they can then own not only the value of the coin, but also the consensus and decisions because the decisions are actually made by the mining power on Bitcoin. So when there's a new uh change that wants to be made to the code in Bitcoin, there's actually two forks that you can choose to mine towards. You'll

mine towards this decision or you'll mine towards this decision. So, if you control the majority of the mining power on the Bitcoin network, you actually control the future of the network itself, which people don't really quite understand. They they tie mining in with just making money, which is yes, that's one part of it. That's just the rewards part of it. The important part of mining is the security and the decisions of the future of the network. So if you think about it like that and you

say, "Okay, well people with all of this mining power now they literally control the future of Bitcoin and now think about it like that and you're like, "Oh wow, now this is a much bigger issue than we thought." Like P, yes, it's it's decentralized, right? Because in theory, like getting getting all of that enough power to be 51% of the network to where they could actually cause a problem in theory that's that's really difficult to do, right? But there are so many people in the world

with massive amounts of capital. They could continue throwing capital into getting more mining hardware and then they will inevitably control a larger percent of the consensus and decision-m of that chain. Right. So that is one of the main problems with P. That's brilliant explanation. It's like lucid. So can you help explain then in a nutshell then why you developed minting and how that's different? And by the way guys, for me this was the most exciting part of the project because I mean just in a nutshell,

tell me if I'm wrong, you're basically an equitable distribution or sharing of the value of the coin produced and and you get access to it by participating. It's a participatory universe. It's not more miners, more coins have more influence. That's where you have inverted the paradigm and the pyramid of power that happening. Yeah, we've done two things that are really key in understanding why the minting system of Qual is better than other algorithms that exist, right? The first thing we did is we decoupled the whole

need to find the block in order to be rewarded. So removing that coupling of finding the block to be rewarded means that instead of only the block signer getting rewarded, everyone in the network who is being a mentor at the time, which is just keeping your node synced and online with a minting key assigned, proving it's your node, which then signs you in basically online to the block every block, right? Um, the only way that you can get into becoming a mentor is by getting sponsored

and talking to somebody who's a level five or higher or a founder, getting a sponsorship, proving yourself to the network. Then you can enter your own minting key and you're off to the races all on your own, right? So, we'll get into a little a few different things, but first decoupling of the rewards from the block signer means that there's no more competition. All the mentors work together. This is really really cool because it also makes it so that you cannot pull the power because the

power is already pulled. Basically to to remove uh uh the ability to pull the mining power, you make it so that the mining power is already pulled. So then if it's already pulled, you can't pull something that's already pulled, right? So every mentor in Portal is rewarded every block regardless of who the block signer is. Now that makes it so that there's no competition for reward. You're a mentor. The only way that you can get more reward is by dedicating your time for a longer period

of time and leveling up in the system to get to a higher level. Now, that's another thing that we've added that no other system has is a leveling system. The mentors of the network will prove themselves to the network, signing themselves online, every block with a signature that's put into every block. And as they do that, they increase in blocks minted on their accounts. And as they do that, their account level increases. as their level increases, that's how you get more reward. So, the longer you've

been proving yourself a legitimate mentor on the network, the more you will get in reward and the more your influence is then in the voting on the platform, which will decide the future. Like Bitcoin's voting is done with the mining. Ours is done by literal vote of leveled users who have been contributing their time. And the longer you've been doing that, the higher vote weight you have, right? Okay, cool. Let me let me then just pause and reflect and in all because people need to really

I think understand better why this is such a departure from every single and there are thousands of them now coins and token projects out there because this every other project from what I understand is going to have a concentration and distribution of wealth power influence that reproduces the global system that we're all right now under the boot of and and when you participate you're actually adding to the network's growth and evolution and and by doing so, you've now established that you have, you know, proven that

you should be able to vote on its direction in the future. And real quick, folks, this is what this is. It's like a primary base layer of the new internet, just like Bitcoin's the primary base layer of a new financial system. It's the new gold, right? And then maybe it'll be collateral for other forms of money in the future. But but what this is doing let's say that after Q chat is is out there which it is now we develop a telegram-l like function out of

that and social media and hosting websites that's all in the plan of portal you will actually maybe someone likes your content they share it instead of Facebook harvesting that and then weaponizing it and then deboosting you in the future to take all your energy you get a say based on the voting of others as to what role you play in the community it's a very if if you will, biomimetic organismic unfolding. And it's because you've designed the code ethically from the outset with the intention of

creating a participatory universe where actually everyone's not only minting co-creating the network like a micelium, but they get actual coins. They share in potlatch style, you know, with a share of the coin. You start with abundance. We're giving coins out to everyone for free, right? You don't have to give us anything. You don't have to buy any coin. You don't have to do anything. All you have to do is come in and talk to somebody who can sponsor you. Become sponsored and you're on your own.

Like that's all you need to do. As much as much contribution as you need to make, then you can begin to prove yourself and earn yourself a higher vote weight and earn yourself more reward over time. It's all based on your contribution over time in multiple ways. But the first way and the only way that exists right now to level up in the system is minting. So we needed the network to grow. The way we needed to do that is by establishing a network of nodes

that are full nodes on the network. And by doing that, you can be a mter, right? You you assign a key that proves that this node is yours. Then that node communicates to the network on your behalf and signs you in every block and you get another block minted, which increases your level and increases your influence on the network. It's literally meant to be based on contribution to the network or some other method of contribution like you were saying with uh social media and stuff like

that. When we do get the next phages and data storage, we will be able to uh reward literal good content creators. So, if you get good up votes on your content, that means that people like you and you can level up in the system that way as well. There are going to be multiple different leveling methods. Right now, the only one that exists is minting because we're trying to grow the network. We're trying to establish it, get it out further and um so we needed the

minting system in order to do that. And can I say one thing? So proof of work is based on the old competition scarcity model that runs most of the world, right? Was what capitalism is um and really what capitalism can also be because capitalism we know is a co-opted term by the um those that are against it really. Um, we're talking about free markets here, right? We're talking about actual free market abundance. And so the problem with that scarcity model is that it will always squeeze

out people in the end. And it will be those who have the power that can uh manipulate and control it. And that's what we've seen for thousands of years. What we want to embrace is the new whole definition of what money is and what reality is based on abundance. And that humans, all humans should be able to live in abundance. And how's that done? that's done through a more holistic minded e economic model of cooperation and uh collaboration. And this is what I was just like

so blown away when Jason and the team were talking about this when I reached out to him because I was working on a an algorithm called proof of experience which is something we can talk about a little bit because that can be I still want to do that. I want to build that still and that can be integrated into the social media aspect and into uh the the next layers because we have voting and we have the ability to update the codebase as a community. We

can integrate new innovative um ideas into this so that it's a constantly growing evolving ecosystem too which is super important to understand because Bitcoin in many ways is not that and that's important too because it's a hard it's a really hard legacy. Someone was asking how are they going to control it? And if they're if you're talking about P, literally all they have to do is buy more miners than most people. Like, and that's not really difficult. If you're sitting on trillions of dollars, you can

buy as many miners as you want. And so that's the thing with with Cordal. The main thing that I wanted to make sure that was never possible was direct influence via monetary means. You cannot come into Cordal just because you have a bunch more money than somebody else and get more influence than somebody else. It is not possible to do that. The only way that you can get influence in Cordal's network is by doing the same thing that everyone else including the founders have to do

to get rewarded. The founders, the only way they can get rewarded is by minting just like everyone else. So if the founders decided to not mint, they're not going to level up. And eventually when people get to level 10, they could actually be more influential than the founders. So it's literally based on your contribution. And anybody can mint on anything. You could mint on like Raspberry Pi 4, a 2001 laptop. Like you could go you could use a solar panel on a Raspberry Pi in the

middle middle of nowhere and mint. Long as you have internet access. Amen. Preach it, brother. Soon that won't be a problem either. I mean, I I honestly get very evangelical about this the energy because you know it goes back to the the the basis of what it means to be human. Like people can't get their mind around myself included initially that what I can produce my own money. I mean we know historically present a tiny computer like this size it fits in the palm of my

hand and runs on five watts of power on a little tiny solar panel. You can do it. Yeah. Well the point is I'm minting on I'm minting on this thing right here. Yeah. Well my point is actually different in a way but I appreciate that because people need to understand the technicalities. This is a really amazing thing you just showed them because you can even run it off a phone in the future. All that stuff. You know, the point though is they have taken presidents out

literally for trying to make it possible for basic Americans to produce their own money. Like what's the Federal Reserve? You know, it's a way of taking everyone's capital and value from them and intermediating these peer-to-peer relationships. You know, we can't barter everything, but we can produce court through our own participation. And that money is completely different from anything else in this space. you know, the way it was designed, the intention, and what it will be used for. And anyone can participate in that. And I love

that so much. It's it's it's really and money doesn't make a difference. We don't care whether you have enough money to buy a tiny Raspberry Pi 4 or you have a $20,000 desktop computer that you're going to run this on. It makes no difference to the network. The network doesn't care whether you have a minting key assigned to this node over here or this one over there that's running on this machine or that big one. It really doesn't matter. So, it that's the thing is that

it's it's getting rid of the need for you to be already wealthy in order to come in and start earning coin. Like on most other networks, if you want to actually be a legitimate minor on a network and you're going to want to actually make a decent amount of money, you're going to have to invest at least a couple thousand dollars into a machine that has seven graphics cards. and and then even then you're probably not going to make all that much because you're going to

be paying most of your money back out to the power company because you're you're running 2,2500 watts all day long. So it's like that we realize that that system just leads to centralization again and you know well let me just remind people that again the ethical imperative here is so strong because you look at Ethereum which people that don't know about the basic history of it don't realize that the founders gave themselves large amounts of the original capital a coin and that's going on all over

this space and well they were issued as an ICO so like an initial coin offering so that's another thing that we didn't do Everything was started from zero. Our chain started from zero and was minted from zero from the beginning. And no no corporation behind it. There's no there's no boards. Everyone owns it. So guys, once again, the ethos represented by Satoshi Nakamoto, if he is truly an anonymous person or group of developers like yourself, because there are other developers that will not be named intentionally

so because there's a certain aspect of risk around being public. I know that myself because this was intended to develop really a solution to what is presently descending upon all of us in terms of crushing our freedom. The economic warfare that has been distributed across the planet under the opaces of co 19. It's a way of imploding the substrate for sovereignty is to take away one's wealth. You either dilute it away through you know money printing or you create a system where you don't actually own

anything. In this situation though, you guys decided not to give yourself any reward. In fact, what actually happened was that Jason, you and others put literally hundreds of thousands of dollars of your own money into this anonymous project that by the way folks is in it's unstoppable in the sense that unless they take the power away or the devices and everyone has in their homes, they cannot put an end to this project. That is the beauty of it. similar to most blockchains is that once they're

running they cannot be stopped. So there's there's no way you can stop a blockchain especially Cordal's blockchain since uh anyone can be a mentor like it takes one node to continue running the chain. So as long as there's one node on the network it will run and the only way that they can stop it is to stop all communications and in the future that won't be a problem either. Once we get enough adoption of this, we do plan to have mesh networking and satellite communications so

that we don't even have to have an internet connection to communicate over the cordal network. So that that's going to be a little bit down the line. But yeah, so so that's a big deal too, folks. When I first heard about mesh networks, this was like a long time ago. I was like that is amazing. They could hit the kill switch on the internet, which in this life, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't experience a little bit of that. And this is a backup system

run by the people for the people. Does that sound familiar? Absolutely. Literally embedded within this initial code is an ethical energy. I was actually going to use this phrase, you know, there's a cipher punks, but it's like cipher theologians or cipher philosophers, right? At this point, this is cippher shamans. for comments because so code I mean you could read the Bible in any sacred text and it's simply code especially in the western languages it's like alpha numeric arbitrary science there's no inherent intrinsic meaning there but

you've taken ones and zeros in this project and you vivified it with a type of energy that to me actually feels like okay there's abundance built in there's a community there's sharing there's an intention around ev evolving to a place. Like to me, we wanted the original decentralization concepts to be real. We want we like the idea of everyone being able to run it all on their own computer. We like the idea of everything being totally individually sovereign and we just there's not anything out there

that does it until Cortal. Like there they just don't quite get there. We we respect natural law. Natural law is inherently decentralized. It's where we need to get back to. It's what we're why we're here on the first place. And I think in the truther movement, which you'd say or you and I much more than Jason is more um just deep tech guy, but we are in like the truther movement. There's a big kind of questioning of this like this is like you know the dark

kind of future of transhumanism that we're being forced into that will be run by the blockchain. And a lot of people fear this stuff. They fear the ones and zeros. And for me I I see it as liberating. I feel like if long as we're decentralized, we can evolve to a place where this technology can allow us to be so connected and in a way that is holistically minded so that we can be free to be the true divine creators on this planet. We want to

be, right? I don't want people forced into day jobs and nonsense anymore. Sorry not to interrupt you, but that's the whole idea is we want them to be able to do what they love, not to have to do something because that's the only way that they can afford their house and nonsense. you know, like it's just But my other point is we don't want to go back to the I don't want to go back to the 1800s. I'm agrarian in approach. Like I'm a farmer and

I like all that stuff, but I also feel like one thing I always loved about the Star Wars movies is they had some tech helping them out. They were like in tune with the force and they were in tune with the organic nature of their connection with Gaia and with the planets, but they also had really cool kind of analog technology that was integrated in. And maybe in the future we do have a less digital and more analog technology that's more based. I know this is

getting woo woo but this is how we think. We are we are we are radicals. We are not in the typical crypto mindset of the industry. We are seeing things in a way our goal here is not to we didn't start this project to make money and to to it's why we didn't IO. We're not on any central we're on like one centralized exchange because they took it upon themselves. Yeah. But that's the other thing is like how do we get in this project? Where do

we buy the coin? That's what's problem with crypto. It's like, how can I buy this coin? And we're like, and that causes a lot of projects to die because they're listed on centralized exchanges only. And a decentralized project listed only on a decentralized exchange or only on centralized exchanges makes no sense. You have to use something centralized even though your platform and everything else is totally decentralized. That makes no sense to me. So yeah, like yeah, you can see how deep this gets, Sarah. Like we

could be doing weekly fireside chats on this stuff. I'd like to actually philosophical. We have a lot of questions in the secular realm and I I obviously want people to know about how they can participate and I also want people to know that I absolutely bought coin myself because I believe in the project and if it goes to zero I'm happy. If it goes to the moon I'm happy because to me this is about supporting something that is a solution to what I see being the

root of the problem that's happening right now. Now, when Claus Schwab talks about no one owning anything, he's not talking about himself. He's saying you'll be happy and I'll be the neofudal king that's going to own everything and my cronies, you know. So, what what we're trying to do here is acknowledge that there is an industrial revolution. And, you know, my colleague mentioned this recently, Steve Carroll, that uh we don't we want real AI. We want actual intelligence, not not what the hell they're producing, right?

that's going to devour the world and turn it into some kind of digital goo. I don't know what they're planning to do, but we want to use the technology as God as nature intended because there is beauty and God in nature in science. It's all throughout all the disciplines. So why would code be exempt or why would it why would I not meet someone like Jason? You know, honestly, he has been a truther, but he's been dedicating for seven because see, I did this myself for

four years. I was in front of an LCD working with a developer like Jason to create Info and it was a huge sacrifice and yet it didn't feel that way because that's all I wanted to do 247. I dedicated my whole life to this for the last seven years. So, yeah. And your heart is like gold. Of course, it is. And I I could trust you because I I really love and trust and admire Mike. So that's what this new system is about is we are

going to connect. We're going to resonate with each other's values, but we're also not going to be all bypassy and, you know, let the UN tanks crush our homes. We're going to actually produce the system that is ready now to to basically catch and support the people that are ready to move off the old system. Like I'm done with Facebook, YouTube. I couldn't even do the live here on Facebook because they said you're done uploading videos and it's I'm looking forward to that because they can't

they don't want this to happen and yet as you said it's unstoppable with one caveat everybody needs to run a node. It's just like with Stand for Health Freedom a nonprofit that no one is still using other than a quarter of a million people which is something but we need a hundred million people to use it. Everyone needs to create this network and everyone will benefit from it. That's why it's so brilliantly designed. It's the network effect. It is. Yeah. Yeah. And it's that's natural login.

You can't just This is why universal basic income is a horrendous idea. You It's It's unnatural just to think you can just sit sit and just receive you. The way this universe works from what I can understand is you have to put out to receive. And so it's so brilliantly done with with Cordal is it's not it's not hard. You just support the network. You support the network. It's a little bit of effort and then you're running a node and then you receive and then that

will allow you to expand out to do entrepreneurial pursuits, be a creator, be do whatever you want and any number of things built on top of the network or utilizing the network for various purposes are also possible. Um we can do a lot of different things that these other uh blockchains are doing with centralized service providers that provide a a a specific service and they use the chain for certain reasons and that's also possible. But the base uh functionality of Portal is meant to have absolutely

no centralized control whatsoever in all of the trading that we're doing in the trade portal, all of the communications that we're currently doing with Qat. And in the future, when we get to the data storage, everything will utilize these same blockchain concepts and the encryption therein to make sure everything is secure and distributed and data storage and everything will all be done that way. And so yeah, it's it's it's really kind of it's a public utility. In the end, that's what Google should be. It's a

public utility. That's why I take this a little bit from Cliff High, who people in crypto know him well. He talks about Star Trek World, right? And versus going into like the opposite, which would be like I call Bladeunner world, which is like the corporatist control dystopia. But Star Trek world, we're exploring space and we have this core fundamental foundation of technology that's owned by nobody. it just serves us to be able to explore. And so really that's the idea here is we have a core

fundamental baseline technology that is run by the by nobody. It's just a protocol that is a public utility of technology that anybody can access at any hub and walk up to and access and it's there. It's there for anybody. It's not owned by anybody. It's owned by everybody really totally by everybody's system that is there for verification and security for everyone using it. So it it's there to provide this uh centralized type uh verification and stuff that that decentralized agencies are doing now but doing that

completely decentralized and that anybody can make use of that still to make the same end goals uh come to fruition. Right. Well, and think of the timing of this when an active sitting president was just deplatformed, right, by employees at Twitter and Facebook without any any guidance or I mean any permission or any any influence. Um so so the point is is this moment like for example you are building out a a server a name server system I think it is or a name. Yeah. No,

that that already exists. So uh the name registration uh in portal actually applies a readable usable name to an address that you can use as a username. You can use it to send receive coin or anything else that you can send receive in portal and you can also use it in the future when we get the data storage uh for an actual name uh to be used like a domain name. Right? So on the cordal network, name registration right now is utilized as like a username,

but it will also in the future be used as a domain name on the cordal network so that you'll be able to go to uh your local machine slash that name and get to someone's website or their blog or whatever else they decide to put up on the network. Let me give you a good example because so getting to the point here for me of having been deplatformed off my email provider. Yeah, like Mailchimp, right? like we had to scramble to try to find another way

to communicate or to be received by the world. And in this system, when you told me more about how it worked is like I I it's just peer-topeer. I don't have like the near infinite number of steps apparently where I could be my my message could get captured or interrupted and then anyone with a domain name, it could be a coinbase.com or it could be greeninfo.com, could be seized by the government at any second. they have this ability but they won't have that on this decentralized

right and that is a huge thing that I think when people start understanding they're going to want to support and when you when you buy these names uh from the registars and stuff right now who why are they why do they just get to decide that they own all the names before everyone else does right in this in cortal no one owns the names cordal the system owns the names that don't exist until somebody decides that those names exist exist and purchase it for a transaction

fee which is 0001 court and then later if they choose to sell that name that they then own because they bought it from the system they own it now they can sell that name later so yeah it's a totally fair system and the domain system right now anyone can go up it's like a whole weird market of people buying up all these domains and selling them the important thing to understand with cordal is you're only tied to one name and to one key to your node

so um a lot of crypto projects, you can just create mult as many infinite accounts as you want, addresses, etc. You can still do that in C portal for different purposes, but you're minting, you want to have one minting account, the rest of the accounts. You can create multiple different accounts for different purposes and make different names on each one. Totally. That's that's what I've been doing for different reasons, too. Um, but we want people to just have one minting account. Uh, the rest you can

totally create new accounts, but you will have the same account every time you log into that account. So the wallet address will stay the same and your name registration is tied to that wallet address. The backend just works a little bit differently on portal. That's amazing. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, my point is that that you want to you want to get into the network now and get your name, right? because um you know that way that that's another impetus for joining the network now

is because as this grows into basically future domain names um it's unique like once someone grabs it unless they want to try to sell it to you or whatnot it's done just how it is now but you don't have that like right now it's really easy for people to go in and just buy like thousands of domain names and and then just hold them and hold them hostage and it's not so easy in this platform and the other thing what's cool about the naming is like

one thing that I I think a really hurdle for adoption to people is how you send coin right now to a public address. You have to copy and paste the public address key and that can actually lead to a lot of lost coins. And what's cool about this platform is you can just send to your friend's name on the network. I wanted to address this question that that someone's asking because yeah, there was a good question. The node, you don't have to be a mentor on

the system. You can run a node and use it for all the other purposes and and use it to buy coin, use it to send, use it to get the registration done, use it for everything else. Only being a menter, which is to help secure the chain and be rewarded for your uh contribution in being someone who's potentially the block signer and signing a new block into existence. That is the only thing that requires sponsorship. Everything else you can use and make use of without anything

else. Um, but if you want to be a mentor, yes, you have to be sponsored by another mentor in the system who's either level five or higher or uh is a founder. So, yeah, you have to communicate with someone to get a sponsorship. Once you go through the sponsorship period, then you're totally back off on your own again. It's only a gateway towards getting that minting account initially established. You have to prove yourself to a sponsor to the network with a sponsor for 7,200 blocks, which

is roughly 5 days if you have your node online the whole time. At which point you become level one and you're totally back off on your own again. You don't even have to communicate with anybody again if you don't want to. But uh yeah, you you only thing that requires sponsorship is becoming a mentor. Everything else on the network is totally open and able to be used without any sort of sponsorship or or approval from anyone. Completely permissionless, completely trustless, completely universal. You can be anywhere

in the world of course to access this. Um, and that's an important point though. The reason why we do that is it's just like a security protocol to because the minting once again is how the consensus works. So we want to make sure that we have good actors on the network for the consensus aspect to secure the network. So, but anybody can pop in um and just jump in and if a friend wants to send them some court that's already has some that's the network effect,

right? That's minting that has some or has someone sent them. They can send you some court and then you can use that little bit of court to create your name and jump in. Start Qat's totally free. You don't have to you don't have to spend any court to jump into Qat. You can start using Q chat. You can um join groups in there and start using that encrypted chat right away. So um and what's beautiful is it's Java based so it's crossplatform you can use it

on any computer Linux Mac PC etc. Yeah I just um want to zoom out a little bit more before we uh go I guess maybe give people even just a very specific example of how they can join because it's very technical. I've spent two weeks here now thanks to the amazing time you both have contributed to helping me understand and and trust me every time I go through a step I think of all of you watching and be like wow these wow this is so much

like I don't know how I'm going to translate this so I want I want people to get more of a higher level understanding because this project is seven years in the making and there were other projects that were attempted and some of the developers and code were used at least as inspiration for this The reality though is I don't want people to think that this is the only decentralized platform out there or attempt at one. No, because this is the movement or evolution of the It

is the only one that uses minting though. Um and yes, because I was going to call there are two, but they both were developed by our team. Yeah. Yeah. I I do want people to understand this is infinitely unique. That's my determination of to two weeks of studying this and I've already been in crypto myself for like three four years more superficially. And I can tell you that this blows my mind because we see billions of dollars flowing into projects like Ethereum or just basic replications

of the code and they're making promises with white papers and doing initial coin offerings and it's basically like Wolf of Wall Street level greed and fear. Drove me insane. That's why we built it first and then talked about it. We did not want to do and people ask me for the white paper. I'm like, "Yeah, I could write one, but why do that when we've already written the platform?" you. That's the thing, guys. These guys could be making billions of dollars if they wanted to. And

they obviously don't. They actually in a way had to take a pledge of poverty to get to this point. And when I talked to Jason, quite literally. Literally. I know because my developer and myself when I developed Greenman Info, he was like selling blood literally before I finally made the decision, okay guys, I got to monetize this. And that took years to even try to have a membership and all that. But the point is is that the initial developers and founders, they literally had to live

like, you know, Gregorian monks or whatever, you know, eating little uh, you know, shards of grass to survive. And that was the way you determined these people wouldn't be greedy because they're the ones who are going to initially sponsor. So it's the ones who came back uh the ones who supported Kora, which was quote unquote a dead project. uh they were the ones who had the potential to be uh already leveled in Portal at the launch because they were supporting a dead coin and running a

network for no reward. So I thought people running a network for a couple years for no reward have to be people who don't really care about greed and stuff like that. So, I figured that would be a great way to get the early leveled mentors in was to take the people who had forged blocks for free on Kora over the past two years and make them start out at a higher level because they had been dedicating their time already towards supporting something for free just because

they liked the network. And I thought it was a great idea. Yeah. Well, and keep in mind that you guys executed the first smart contract. So, what Ethereum gets all the credit for. I know basically. And then that's part of we won't even get into the drama of Ethereum 2 and how the init they're uh with some of the developers on this chain wanting to pull them over there and these developers saying we see what you're doing. You're creating a new kind of I mean it's

essentially Ethereum. I'll say right now it's a Ponzi. It it relies on ICOs. That's the whole focus. That's the whole value of it is to create tokens on there so people then can go on centralized exchanges and and basically play the markets and most of those ICOs are are corporationowned that those people that have that coin have a vested interest and own a ton of the coin and then what happens is that those projects go up and down and Ethereum's value is going up. But now

look what's happening to Ethereum. The gas prices are out of control because it's it's a faulty system. I'm sorry. I call it the compuserve of crypto 2.0. It will fail because it didn't come from a right ethical infrastructure. It came as a way to like sure I I think Vitalic is a really smart person. I think he really probably was had good intentions that to use blockchain as a computational machine. Um, the problem is it's blockchain for me it it it came it just came out

of the wrong mentality at that point with the ICO boom and now it's so deep. It's like it's like it's like the mainstream medical model say it's like they're so deep into their germ theory into pharmaceuticals that they're they're too deep now. And so I see that in the same way with Ethereum. And so what do they do? They just have to create more tokens now. They're creating this whole DeFi thing. Yeah. Can I point out too, it's like an addiction to fiat money when the

whole point of crypto, the whole space was originally to respond to the incredible harm and suffering caused from the last financial collapse due to the Ponzi scheme of fractional reserve banking and the Federal Reserve. So, and now it's being recapted as you said, proof of work mining can be manipulated. And then, of course, by the way, I'm not against Bitcoin because I do see the death of sovereign. I'm not against Bitcoin either. I'm just saying that the P does have a tendency to lead towards centralization.

Well, it's a transition towards this better system is the way I see it. So for me, this project, we actually support Bitcoin in Cordal as a wallet. Yeah, it encompasses the best of what Bitcoin and Ethereum intends to do and that's what I think people are going to start understanding and when they do there will probably be an attempted stampede of capital in to invest. But what you guys have done so brilliantly is you've attempted to keep the money changer decentralized exchanges out of the project.

One project BTC Max has listed you and that's do what you will. It's a free market. That's another thing people need to understand is that you're not trying to create some perfect utopian totalitarian unicorn state here either. You're just creating a base layer with us. Anyone can make use of it for whatever purpose they see fit, right? Like that's what it's all about. Like that's why anyone can jump in, develop on it. Anybody can jump in, use it for whatever. Yeah, that's the power of open

source. That's the power of open source. Open source everything. That's the power. But look at what this company has done. Michael Sailor talks about it. Why does it have like a trillion dollar close to it market cap? Apple dematerialized a near infinite number of objects from flashlights to rulers to I mean the apps do almost anything now and but they're totally proprietary and there's usery level fees and this has become the new dark church of uh this this new world order and and so we are

also trying to get through this problem and thanks to you guys and Jason specifically you've created a hardware that actually is open well my development team but yeah like I I come up with some concepts and stuff, but it's really everyone like all the people who are involved in Portal, all the developers that I've, you know, gotten to talk to each other and gotten this done. Like without without them, I'm just some dude up here rambling about Bitcoin stuff like, and they they were, you know,

they were the ones who actually made all of this happen. And without them, I say thank you to them on a daily basis because without them, we wouldn't have this amazing system. So, yeah, it was not just me by any means. In fact, and a lot of the guys who've been working on this make me look like an idiot. So like, yeah. And and this is just the start because anybody can come in. It's open source. If you have code skill, we need coders badly right

now. Like, you know, so um that's the beauty of it. We've set the infrastructure. It's there now. It's we're we're building out the network and now it's time. It's time for people who are impassioned by the the ethical kind of moral baseline of this of this that have skill sets whether you have marketing skill sets whether it's all about community in the end all about building that community and getting everybody understanding this and getting everybody helping to fulfill this this goal because it's yeah everything down

to the hardware level is open source. We envision a future where everything is open source, right? And that challenges people and I'll love to talk about this because it makes it hard for us to find uh certain things to get investment with too because they don't understand that open source you can still make money with open source stuff. But yeah, well that's the part that I want to discuss a little more. Well, first of all, what drove me to you was that I had an inspiration

before being introduced to you to make Greenman Info a blockchainbased project because all of the censorship attempts like this is not my knowledge. It's from the National uh Library of Medicine anyway. I just spent a lot of time curating it and adding another layer of value. But I want to give that back to the collective and what better way than use a blockchain technology. And that's what brought me to you because I was like, "Wow, maybe these guys can help me do this and I can

put it on there." So, I want people to know that. The second part is that it's important for people to understand that this is the new, if you will, fertile soil for incredible innovation, free market principles. Like, anyone who actually understands code and they look at the codebase that we have, they come back to me really excited most of the time. They're like, "It can do this and it can do this and it can do this." So yeah, it it's something that this is not just

some nonsense project that's been put together over a short period of time. This is many years in development with some really really smart people all working together to make these crazy concepts actually come to fruition. So well look at my point around this problem around let's say land. Okay, over time there's been so much concentration of wealth and power and land etc into a few hands. coming in and taking their land for example can be just as karmically bad like a violent process for example but

what what I'm saying is the internet is a new layer of human evolution consciousness and and the commons concept as Mike said that it's a utility Jordan Peterson says this he thinks that you know the flow of social media interaction should be treated like a utility you know it's the you know it's the currency of democracy at the very least so what you guys have been building or at least the vision of is an opportunity for us to create a ground for also free market expression

but not malignant disaster capitalism either. There's there's going to be checks and balances as as ecosystem and you and I get to co-create it if you're drawn to it. And that's again what I want to get out. But go ahead. Yeah. No, absolutely. That's that's what it's all about. It's about bringing all the like-minded people together to have first of first off a base level platform that's there to use, right? And we have that now and the functionality of all the things that we've we've got

demos for like Qatal. So, we're never stuck to a centralized exchange. You'll always be able to trade directly with Litecoin or multiple other coins in the future when we get those done. But right now, you can trade directly with Litecoin inside of the cordal UI without any central authority whatsoever. There's no possible regulation. There's no possible moderation of trades. It's a literal cross-chain trade from one chain to another that can already be done right now. And you can see all of the other concepts in the

back end that are not even fully built out yet, but there's a lot of stuff that's going to be able to be done with the platform. So for those who are listening because the question was very specific, you answered it, but just to give a more colloquial overlay is that you can get Coinbase which ties to your bank full of fiat dollars and you can buy Litecoin and send it to the Cordal trade portal and then turn that on the trade portal into court. Essentially, all

you're sending it to is a Litecoin wallet. It's just a Litecoin wallet that we've built inside of Cordal. It's a local wallet. You have all the keys for it. So when you're sending coin, you're not sending coin to anyone except for yourself. And so when you do that, you buy Litecoin on Coinbase and then send it to your Portal wallet, you're actually securing it at the same time because when you leave it in Coinbase, you don't own it. Coinbase owns it. So until you withdraw to

a wallet that you control, which Portal is just a wallet, you'll withdraw to a wallet that you control. You're securing your coins and taking ownership of your coins at the same time. And then you can use the trade portal with that local wallet to trade for court. Right? And the point too is that for people that want to understand, okay, is this some imaginary prospective thing is that when you have court, you can also turn it back into fiat by trading it for Litecoin. So, so

that that way you understand that this is actually has what you call liquidity and it has this realworld connectivity with the old dying system that we have to interact with, but we don't want to be captured by it. We don't want to be taken advantage by it. So just keep in mind that this is a live project now after all this time, seven years, and it is now functioning and ready to take your energy. If you want, simply run a node or participate by purchasing court

and holding it because that's all that I will do with it because I want this to grow and to feed the ecosystem. Liquidity. Can we talk about liquidity? Because right now most of crypto is focused around liquidity of these so-called decks which is really a lot of this Ethereum based um you know they call decentralized finance or DeFi. And so you've got oracles, you got all these things trying to create liquidity. Liquidity is created through adoption. Liquidity is created through people actually using the the system

that will thus create demand for it in a real free market. And if you have that real demand, then people will want to come in and they'll want to come in. They'll want to bring their Litecoin or their Bitcoin in. And they'll want the court so that they can use the court for services like uh creating um our plans for a more Telegrambased decentralized encrypted chat for hosting for all these things. You know, the manufacturer of liquidity for markets is Wall Street 2.0. It's derivatives. We

are not supporting a derivative here. court is not a derivative and this is really important to know because Bitcoin has in many ways become a derivative and that is the problem with centralized exchanges. So it's these are all really important things for people to understand with the current state of crypto. So um we take this stuff very seriously and it's really we are technologists we are freedom lovers we are philosophers we are we want to see the world be decentralized because we feel like that is

the solution to all the problems we're seeing right now and the way you decentralize is by getting off the centralized exchanges by getting off fiat people are asking well how do I convert court into the real world well I mean LTC is pretty much already accepted at a bunch of different places even without converting it to fiat just you beat me to the punch. We start using crypto instead of fiat. We use it for bartering. We use it I know this is radical but we use

it instead of converting to cryp to fiat and people are going to need to start doing that because the banks are getting crazy. So um anyway question I kind of want to answer this. Yeah cuz he asked about coin market cap. Um, okay. So, there's there's both a beautiful thing and a slightly annoying thing about the fact that we do not need centralized service providers, right? So, because we do not need centralized service providers, we do not need centralized exchanges, we're not really listed on any

of them and we will not be putting any effort in towards getting listed on them. So, we cannot really be listed on something like Coin Market Cap where they only take into consideration centralized exchanges. That being said, if Coin Market Cap decided that they did want to support us, we do have a price API built into the codal API that allows you to get the average price in Litecoin for Court that's been traded on the trade portal. So, they could actually put a little bit of

development time into making the support for putting Qual onto Coin Market Cap if they wanted to. That being said, I personally or any of the founders personally will not be actively seeking listing on any centralized service provider. Market cap is another one of those tricky things that's used within current crypto to to create fake value and we see it all the time with these Ponzi and it's we got to get away from this this they've crypto 2.0 I know which we call it the Ethereum boom,

the ICO boom of 2017 got people into this mindset of of basically the trading of the markets and it like stocks which which is which on one case is kind of okay but on the other it's not right at all. How are you going to compete with the bots people? How are you going to compete with the with these these are low liquidity markets that are pumping up schemes that are I must get hit up by like 20 of these a day on Discord. Yeah. manipulating

these these projects and these are some we're not d we're not dissing a lot of these developers. A lot of people are getting in and making protocols with really good intention. Unfortunately awesome. Yeah. Unfortunately, they're doing it in many ways which is which is leading to their own destruction because they're following the game plan of getting on excuse me getting on Binance getting listed and then boom the whales come in the predator class. Yeah. the predator class comes in and manipulates and controls and destroys. And

that's another thing on the trade portal I just want to make a point of since we're talking about that is the trade portal's market cannot be manipulated. There's no way to put up a sell wall. You there's only cells that are listed on the market anyway. So when you go into the trade portal, you'll see the market cells that are listed. People who put those cells up paid a transaction fee to put that cell up on the blockchain. It's literally on the blockchain. then that cell

and or any cell listed there can be clicked and bought regardless. So you're not stuck behind a certain order. Somebody puts up a 5,000 order at a low price and you you're like whatever, I'm ignoring that guy. You can just ignore him and buy a different order. It doesn't matter. So that's the thing. There is no manipulation that's possible on the Cortal Trades world at all. What I'm going to do too for folks is that before doing this interview, I spent uh the two weeks pretty

much ingesting all the interviews that you all have. Yeah. So there is a lot of details there too. And at the end of this uh we'll also ask either Jason or probably you Jason to go ahead and walk people through what they would do if they wanted to participate. Yeah. Because that's still kind of a question but there's a couple ways to participate too. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And really the thing is is at this stage I really just wanted to share what got me extremely

excited about because we are really in a situation right now where if we don't have this alternative where we can't express ourselves and share information and now value we're we're really it's really dark and on top of it I do feel that this is a means to create abundance or value from from your own participation and that's something I've come to so I want people to know that for me before this came up I was starting to visualize ways we could just remove you know money

from interactions going back to finding your gift whatever it is you might be a singer you know massage therapist a farmer you know a blowhard like me you know that gets on a soap box and then you share exchange that locally with people in your community it could be we have eight chickens now we're going to have way too many eggs that's the beginning of our pot latch here locally and That's why exactly and I know that I mean obviously Mike you get really into this

idea with all the great stuff you've been working on but that's part of why Cordal to me is so powerful because this is the only project that I know of that fundamentally was built to uh mirror and enhance that incredible human uh impulse to share to connect to participate and that's why your participation gives you the level that's why like it was supposed to be based on how much energy you put in was supposed to be directly correlating to your reward and your influence in the

network. And so yeah, like you're exactly right. Exactly. Yeah. And and just keep in mind if you're listening to this and you're not a little bit confused and being like, "Wow, what is this?" I don't blame you. Trust me, because these guys on a technical level, they're talking veryon right now and even I'm having trouble sometimes. So, but I I do think though that's what's being called of us. We are in a situation where right the technocratic dystopia that'll be driven by an AI system that

is actually not very friendly in terms of its algos right and and what how are we going to countermand that how are we going to exist in the world if we don't have a parallel system that we have created that is going to reflect and honor our basic sovereignty and that's what this is about for me so I I hope you total individual sovereignty that's what I always say cordal is about like and when you get into yeah there's a lot of stuff to understand, but

on the base level, that's all it's about is giving back total individual sovereignty to everyone, right? And and we as we develop and get more people involved, we will make the onboarding process as a community. We're going to make it easier. Right now, yes, it takes a little bit of technical knowhow. Uh and so it's all about community building and and growing and making getting more developers so that it becomes easier and easier to use. I will say this though, if we want sovereignty, we got

to do the work of it. um we kind of have to become our own theologians, our own lawyers, our understanding law, like understanding how to grow food like right now kind of universe is demanding that. So that's what's so empowering about this space is that you are taking charge of your own life, your own currency, your own. So yes, a little bit of setup and effort in the beginning is required and uward through videos on how to set it all up, but really it's not that

difficult like and even and once you get it set up once, it's really really simple. Then the UI is really intuitive. Even if it's not as pretty as we want it to be right now, it's still really intuitive and easy to use. And UI just means user interface. User interface. So that just means that's like what you interact with with a mouse and keyboard, right? versus typing code um to do the things we do. And that UI will get better and better and slicker and slicker.

And that's what you get with centralization. You've got like teams with millions and millions of dollars that are just devoted to single projects. And guess what? This can support that. Like the base layer technology, which is decentralized, you can have a for-profit company come on board and develop hardware for it, develop apps for it. Of course, we're we're entrepreneurs. Like we support the free market. We support that. Someone just asked about how to claim a name in the quickest possible way. You could actually install just

the portal UI and before you create your account, change the node to node 2 at the settings and you won't even have to sync the chain and you can get in immediately and go in and use Q chat and uh you just need a a fraction of a coin to to register your name. So, if you're in Qat, if people are in Qat talking, I will send people who do not have coin a couple coins so that they can, you know, register names. I'm not, you

know, I'm trying to make sure everybody can do that. Well, one thing too is if we could also maybe have uh Jason, I don't know if you can share your screen and just run through maybe no more than five minutes like a an overview of how it could be longer than five minutes, but so that people can see what how do they actually put this on their device. I don't know if that could let me see. I haven't done it on Mac. You want to screen

share the Q chat? I'll drop a note in there. Like the the the thing about Q chat which is so exciting is this is just one like one little element that we developed on it using the base layer technology of this like the it's infinite of what can be done with this and like we we're envisioning a whole new streaming platform uh a whole new uh type of YouTube uh you know and then of course hosting uh super important like with our company Alpha Vadic we're

trying to reinvision how commerce can be done and we see our website because we're being censored we got strike on YouTube last week. Um, we we're seeing all of commerce being done on this uh and everything. I know Sarah, same with you with Green Met info. We'll be some of the first websites that are totally immutable. I mean, that's really exciting. So, oh no, can you see this? Yes. Yep. Okay. So, this is what the UI for Cordal looks like. And what I was saying, so

I have the core running on this machine, too. So, that's the the blue icon right up here. But if I didn't have that core running, what I could do is literally just change this here to uh node two, which is the one with one 1239 one right here at the very bottom. If I do that and close and log in using that, then um it will use a hosted core so that you don't even have to sync the chain. And I'm just going to create a

little test account here. I think for most people they won't know what that means any of that but but some people basically basically what that means is you're you're hopping on to someone else's node onto a node that is connected to the network and since the UI is what manages the keys and everything you don't even need to worry about you know any sort of issues like that you're still managing everything on your side and no matter what with portal there's no communication of anything other

than signed transactions that go to the network anyway so there's no worry about uh any sort of uh losing your account, anything like that. So, I just wanted to show you you could log in without using a h a local core. So, you don't have to sync it yourself and you can still come right into Qat, which is right here, and you can message and do whatever you'd like to do. And see, I just I just messaged right there. See? Yeah. Right there. And so, I

came in with a brand new account without uh the using the core on my computer and was able to do that. And if you come in and you talk on here and you're an account that doesn't have a name, I will come in and and send you a coin or a fraction of a coin so that you can register your name and get going. So yeah, it's, you know, the UI is is really simple to set up uh even on this Mac, which is arguably the

most difficult to set up. Um for the UI, we literally have an installer for it and you're good to go. So um and creating your account and everything is really simple. It walks you through the whole process. Um, so if there's any questions, just let us know. We have videos and stuff explaining um, how to do it, too. So, yeah, that's helpful. We'll put some videos in the notes. And I want people to know that, you know, a lot of my questions initially were like, wow,

how are people really going to use this? And that user interface is actually really intuitive and smart. And I know a lot of thinking was behind it. Keep in mind, in the future, some of these things will become even more automated with Oh, yeah. A lot easier. I have a lot of different ideas already for different plugins to be built to make a lot of things easier. But but I want people to understand the scale involved in a project like this is just unbelievable. Like when

I created agreement info with my developer, it was 100,000 lines of custom code. I know I asked you at one point, Jason, if you could I haven't counted it. I know it's a ridiculous number. Like maybe I I don't know. I know that just the the SIM ATS have a couple hundred thousand just by themselves. So wow, I'd have to go back and literally count it, but there's so much work that's into this platform. It's all open source. It's on currently Yeah, you can look at

the code. You can go look at it on GitHub and see. It's currently on GitHub. And now we know GitHub, which is for people that don't understand what GitHub is, that's just a repository for code and anybody can go in and make commits to that. And and there's there's a lot that gets into the open- source world. But what's problem with even GitHub now is it's owned by Microsoft. We will eventually have our code repo on top of that's what I was just gonna say. The

brilliance of this is that we're gonna literally support our own open source code on the open source platform that is fully decentralized. I mean that just is like I mean there's so many people that obviously like myself initially like still don't understand and that's okay because guys I don't want you all to think that you're supposed to really understand the technical language here. Um, but so what I want to do is just let people know that Jason spent a week helping me and a few friends

try to install this on his More than happy to. Yeah. And I mean that's the crazy thing about this is like I don't it's not scalable for him to do that. I don't want him to do that but he's going to do it. I'm making videos and stuff too like I just made the video yesterday on the installation for the Mac. Um and I can you know and we have we have great community too. Sean helps out a lot of people a lot of people in

our community will do that too. It's not just Jason. Well, and that's why I want to point out for those who want to support the project like I did is you know I donate all the time to different people projects that I believe in and in this case it was easy. I bought coin and that helped and that's one of the things that you know I don't want to make a sales pitch for this project because the point is for people to mint the coin and

then create their own value. But the reality, because someone asked this earlier with price discovery, is that if you look at the price of Ethereum right now, given that the chain was rolled back because it was technically hacked or compromised. Yeah. Billions. Yeah. The billions of dollars have gone into it and this is superior in every way that I can measure. Then again, when it comes to price discovery, it's like 30 cents a coin. If people are looking at it as an opportunity, then yeah, I

think it's an opportunity. But I don't Exactly. But I I don't want people to get into a state of FOMO or or greed and feel like, oh my god, that's not what this is about at all. It's not. It's because we ultimately what we want is for people to run the node and and work with us in be part of the network, help us grow it. And yeah, if you've got some extra money you want to throw into it at these early stages, it's a good

idea. But that's, you know, completely aside from what we're trying to go for here. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. In fact, I think what is needed more than ever is for people to do what Mike is saying earlier, which is this is just one of the aspects of being a human on this planet at this time. It's a big one and thank God there for people like Jason and the anonymous visionary developers that have put their lifeblood into this, but we have to make sure it's balanced. This

is a project that I'm introducing now and I could still spend years studying this topic and do a better job next time. But I didn't want to wait any longer. I really felt like, you know, meeting you, Jason, at this time, knowing how you guys opened this up where you could have created capital for yourself, but chose not to, proving to me that everything you've said about this project is absolutely true. Yes. That's why we want you guys to participate. And I do not have the

capacity to people. I I just don't do it. I don't ever do that. And this is yeah this is project that I've been dedicating my entire life to and a lot of other people have too for a long period of time because I believe in the philosophy behind it because I know that we can do it and because I know we have the developers and the team that made it happen and we'll have continually adding more people who can come in and help us out because

it's all open source. And so all we really have to do is get more eyes, get more people who look at it and see it and people who understand the code especially because once they see that then they get really excited and then they really want to help. So yeah, like we just need to get more eyes on the project overall, get people understanding it so they can help use their skills and whatever skills that they have to help get it out further and of course

get much uh more developer attention and so forth. So yeah, the uh the website is cordal.org. cordal.org. That's how you can go in and find all the downloads and information. We are currently redoing that. Sarah was nice enough to invest in that. I've invested I have a web development team. We're literally doing that out of our own pocket. Um it's currently being redesigned right now. So we're hoping to have that up in a week or two. Uh totally nice slicker looking site. That's the issue with

decentralization is we're not going to have that corporate slickness right out of the gate. Yeah. So people need to realize that. I literally built that site myself, the one that's up there now. I'm like, I just got to make sure we get a site up and so I just put it up there. Yeah. So, like that's the thing is that since we don't have all the corporate money and corporate stuff from behind us, we're not going to have all the slick, shiny, fancy stuff right now,

but we'll get there too, right? Like everything in time will get nicer looking, will get easier to use. We'll get more functionality in both the front and the back end. And I can see nothing but like really positive things in the future happening if we if we adhere to all of this. Yeah. What I'll be doing, I think it's clear, is I'll we'll do updates with you on the project because as I get more involved and people get more excited, my main focus is how can

we get this so that it's extremely easy for people to participate and you're doing the best you can and it's amazing where it's at and I know there's a lot more we can do, but we also want it to be slow on some level right now, right? And the network is built to grow slowly like with the sponsorships too like so we can't just sponsor all the new mentors at once, right? So you have to kind of get used to it, understand it, and then wait

and and get a sponsorship as you're contributing. So it makes you get involved in the community. It makes you, you know, uh just just get involved. Basically, get involved and start looking at it and start checking it out and then you'll really understand it. Then by the time you get sponsored, you'll be really really happy about getting sponsored. And yeah, literally the end of oppression. I love that comment. Absolutely. Yeah, that's really what we're trying to go for. I know it sounds like super idealistic and

crazy, but yes, we came up with some crazy idealistic concepts and we were able to make them real, which is and we're allowed to be idealistic and radical because we intentionally didn't put ourselves in a position where we have a board of directors and and in in commercial interest telling us what to do. I've had projects in this space actually kind of fail uh because of that because of that intention because money interest came in and said well it's time to get this person and a

board and the CEO and get it corporatized. So we're allowed to do this and then the community then can come in and go well we want to see it this way and it's all about consensus. So if enough in the community go well we feel like this is important and they have those voting rights because they put the time into the network over years to have their say then they will. And so it's uh that's a really important thing to understand is as like a founder

Jason founder we're just in the end we have to do the work too still we have to be running nodes and we have to to be able to maintain our level so that we can have a say because in the end we could get pushed out right so um I was going to say too I mean what you're someone was asking about getting court you can buy Litecoin from anywhere send it to your Litecoin wallet and buy court the trade portal or if you're just trying

to get like one or two so you can register a name start talking in Q chat and I'll notice you and I'll send you some coins so you can register your name. Yeah, I was just going to say too and we're going to kind of like give everyone here an opportunity to sort of like end with a certain message or is like what you're describing is truly a participatory democracy and you know so many of us have been gas lit and deluded and and you know

controlled into thinking that we somehow live in that here in the United States and I think that the veil was lifted in the past year for many tens of millions of more people and you just can't write it on paper and make it exist. But you can create, right? You can create a structure technologically. It's almost like the it's the promise of of of of a technocrass that that no one talks about or you know that there is something still very beautiful and I will use

the reference from astrology Aquarian about what this is you know and so I I you guys have renewed my faith that there is a way for us to use technology in a healthy way to to take back our rights and to truly heal the world. And this is like this is like a vote for peace. It's a vote for everything I believe in. So I I just want to say again, can I just say one thing though? This isn't the problem with democracy is the mob

rule idea. And most democracy is actually centralized mob rule. And what's what's beautiful about this is that actually this is this is a distributed hierarchal democracy. So those who have put their the elders right get to have more weight because the elders have put their time in and have more wisdom on the network. You can't just come in and start pushing your rap because you you know that's the problem with democracy is that it's it's the control over of the mini over that influence cannot be

bought. No more uh what is it called lobbying all the right? Yeah that's huge. There is no lobbying in our voting system. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is the rise of a true I guess global decentralized distributed democracy. Talk about a new world order global governance structure. I'd rather participate in this one than whatever one that's actually by the people for the people owned and controlled by the people. Yeah, exactly. And it that is the beauty of of what I see here. And uh I'm going

to do my best to support in whatever way I can to to to have give it a chance because I know that there there's obstacles and failabilities in in in in our intentions, but I think that we could make this work. I really do. And and one of the things too that's going to make the onboarding a lot easier is uh these devices and we could have companies that come on and and do this and for profit but uh because it's so easy to mint on

anything you can take a what's called a Raspberry Pi which is just a small operating device. It's just a small computer basically and that's like a hundred bucks. Um but you can we can develop it through the open- source uh software. So that's just plugandplay and it has uh like a tour embedded for security, for privacy and basically a plug-and-play thing where it's just a piece of hardware you plug in and it runs your internet for you. It runs your node. It allows you to mint

everything out of the gate. And so there's going to be a lot of really cool innovation that will make it plugandplay for people. Um you're still going to have to do the work to run your node and take the time, right? It's the time preference idea. you're g in order to um to take place in this reality, you have to put your time forward. Like you cannot hack time that I know of yet. So I mean nobody I know can hack time either. So I think

that's the brilliance of in the end that's for me and there's a lot of different functionality to that algorithm at the back level. It's not just like oh just time. No, there's there's a lot to it. like the backle algorithm on this thing is pretty complex, but uh it's fair and it's honest and it's open source. Everybody can take a look at it and yeah, it's it's pretty incredible. Okay. Well, I'm pretty sure I mean we still have a thousand people on that there's going to

be a lot of people now going to the website trying to download the installer and I know that Jason you'll probably get flooded and so that's okay. That's okay. Our Discord's great though. We're on Discord. a bunch of people in the community that are are more than willing to help at all times of the of the day cuz we got worldwide participants. So, there's people always available there and ask any questions. Yeah. Yeah. Get into our Discord or even in Qat and ask the questions you

need to ask and somebody will get to you whether it's me or someone else. like you know if you can get into Q chat which isn't hard as we said get the UI installed you will get I'll be in there like I was even joking on Discord I'm not going to be in Discord much anymore because I'm trying to live what we're talking about so I'm trying to use Me I'm trying to get everybody off of Discord but the problem with Qat is it's still only

24 hours we need more caching we need to do some caching on the on the client side so we can have messages stay longer and a few other things that we can do but obviously that's just with a little bit more development but yeah I want to use Qat man I want to get off of Discord I want to use Qhat for everything and having the groups and everything can be a similar structure to Discord but built on top of a distributed decentralized network. It's insane

what this can do portal can do blows my mind even still. Yeah, Discord's already censoring people and people I know have been kicked off like whole servers have been kicked off. So it is centralized but it is a good platform right now for community building. So you can go on there and uh if you do have questions there's a whole technical stuff. If you are on Telegram too, we do have a telegram. Uh yeah, as far as somebody's asking question about the UI running on the

Mac, it doesn't verify the developer since we're anonymous. So uh just go to your system preferences, security and uh privacy and the general tab and click open anyway and then it will open and you'll have to click open anyway one more time and then it will finally fully open. Here's another good question if if someone wants to answer. But real quick, Jason, someone's already from this stream on Q Chat telling me about it and and I'm going to send them coin right now to get their

name. So that means they're using the hosted core and everything's working great. So yeah, like and if they want to sync their own core, they can they can do trading and minting when they have their own core. So the thing is the difference, right? If you're using one of the hosted cores, which only right now node two is the only one that works, and I'm going to be changing that. Um but yeah, right now you can only use node 2 as a hosted node. But if

you don't have your own local node, you cannot trade and you cannot mint. You have to own your node in order to trade or mint in portal. Everything else you can send money, you can send uh messages, you can do all the other stuff with a non-local core, but everything else, the trading and the minting has to be done with a local core because you have to own your node before you can claim to own it, right? Um, a and how much court is involved to

to create a name again? 01. That's what I thought. Okay. Um, and then there was a question here. How can it stop a I didn't see the whole thing at Flash real quick. How I think we covered this a lot, but how can you stop a billionaire from coming in and buying up the network? Well, they can buy a coin, but the coin doesn't mean anything in far as far as the influence in the network. So, they can't buy influence. They can buy coin. They can

hold as much coin as they want. They can't manipulate the market because there's no manipulation possible in in the in the trade portal anyway. So, sure, they can hold they can be a big holder and come up in value with us. It's about all they can do. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Well, guys, I mean, we're here almost at two hours and, you know, this has been incredible. I so appreciate my followers. I want to do this weekly or something, man. I've been wanting to do some sort

of weekly live stream, even if it's just, you know, like a 20-minute thing every week or whatever. if you have time for that. I don't know, but or Mike and I can set something up. But yeah, like I want to keep getting, you know, continual word out there. I'm with you. In fact, um, one of my intentions is to create a platform that would in some way help to amplify and support you and all related projects. I mean, Greement Info is sort of like that for

me still, but the reality is that I feel like I want I want to continue to support and educate and and raise awareness around this because it's going to make people's lives happier and more inspired to know that there really is a solution against something that seems just irrepressibly dark. And so, exactly. So, I'm with you guys. Everyone who's here, I thank you for participating. I'll just hand it off to uh Mike and you for any last comments or anything you'd like to share. Well, I

just sent someone who came in at coin. They're going to create their name right now. So, I understand guys that please understand in a truly decentralized project like this, it's not like going to be like going to the Apple store, right? And and it's we have to understand that and give us a little bit of leeway here. Come into the community, get to know people in the community, ask for support, join us in this mission. Like it's not going to be so simple as clicking. This

is the problem we have in our reality right now. People make simpler too. But yeah, we will we will this it will. But people have become so accustomed to centralized services uh inflationary centralized services that make their lives so easy and that's great. But look where it's gotten us. We're basically enslaving everything. We own everything. Yeah. So, we're trying to get rid of it. Take a little bit of elbow grease to start and getting set up is really not that difficult. Watch the video if you're

on Mac, which I'm I assume a lot of the people watching now are on Mac. I just did a video on how to set everything up yesterday. Um, so check that video out and walk through it. Walks you through every aspect. You need to learn a few different commands in the terminal, but it it takes like no effort really. Like, so if you dedicate, you know, 15 minutes to this, you should be able to get it going. Um, Can I say one more thing too? The

chain's really fast. So like Bitcoin takes like depending on um how busy the network is and how many um you know validations it takes depending on what you're using and stuff. It could take like an hour sometimes to get coin and we know this Ethereum can take a while depending on gas prices. One minute one minute. So it's no matter what confirmed in one one confirmation because of the way the backend consensus works. It doesn't need multiple confirmations. One confirmation and you're good to go. one

minute guaranteed or less. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's a robust chain. Um, we could get more and these future chats talking about the back end of it is completely different than any other blockchain and capable of a whole lot more than any other blockchain. And when developers look at that, they see it and they're like, "Holy crap, you're not kidding." Like, this is actually an infrastructure platform. Yeah, there's a lot of fast chains out there, but they're centralized in that they're usually like some sort of delicated

Byzantine fault tolerance. And I don't we don't need to get too I know that's going to be like what but but this is a a truly decentralized fast chain. So I know it's hard to compete against Swift or against something that's like 5 seconds with with Visa. But can we wait a minute people for freedom? Can we wait one minute for Qat the unconfirmed transactions are? We can use that that same concept for Qata types in the future that would be instant too. So yeah, there

I mean there's a lot we can do. Yeah. Beautiful. Wow. Okay. Well, anything last any last comments or are we I I I just say go to cordal.org. Um jump in the Discord Telegram, join us in the community. I'm alpha warrior on there. Um and uh he's croetic. Uh and just get involved and uh we the whole community is great. You'll love the community. Yeah, it's it's a great crypto comm or blockchainbased community and um we're really excited at Alphadic um you know uh alphavaddic.com is

our website. We look to get off Patreon, off uh Woo Commerce and off like everything and I my plan for is to create an e-commerce solution using this so that you can plug and play into Woo uh into WordPress. And I like WordPress because it's open source and it's it's you know it's a it's it's easy. So, um I want to have a website builder like that for our data and hosting when we get to that point. Yeah, exactly. But, uh to have our goal at

Alpha Vadic, which is alfedic.com and Ser's has been interviewed with us and uh his lovely wife Kelly and we we love them so much and greenfo is our place to go for um for information. Uh and we look forward to having greenmadeinfo.com, alphabdic.com, whatever on this network, but it will won't be like we'll we'll explain that in future talks how you'll access that. But imagine that S an immutable website that they can never take down. Corora network can already do it and we can demon demonstrate

it literally right now. Yeah, that's beautiful. And that's what this is all about, you know. So we can all finally feel like, you know, our work, our truth can actually even be there for our beautiful children, you know, like our our our very names, like our history can be completely rewritten. You know, it's going to be really cool when we get to a point where we can share making the creation of like a a book or music or something like that utilizing the chain to verify

the steps each way. I have some really cool ideas that I would like to see in the future. Yeah. No, we'll have to do a number of other talks because we can go into such other inspiring. This is just a base level infrastructure that's capable of literally anything and done in in the correct way to literally not have any centralized authority over any part of it. And that's the key, right? Like and so with this infrastructure, literally anything is possible. And it's kind of insane because

it's it's true. Literally anything is possible. And if you look at it, you can go, "Wow, he was not joking." Like it's that big of a deal. So yeah, just the first step is for people to put a little bit of effort in, get it set up, look at it, uh come into the community. I mean, that's all you can do to start with and and from there, you know, the world is your oyster once you realize what what all you can do with this. So

beautiful. And the last thing I'll say is that it really is true that if we all create this now, it'll happen. But if we don't contribute to the growth of the network, honestly, it's really a disruptive thing that's being created. And yet it's absolutely necessary, beautiful, peaceful, and it will help liberate us. So unless we're all doing our part in creating this network, it's just not going to happen. It's just like we could be doing the Maharishi effect, meditating, and that will have a huge effect,

too. But this is not that different. Like it does take us all participating to create this new world. Cool. All right. Thank you guys so much and we will be giving you updates, the agreement info, Telegram, etc. and just thank you for being part of this and feel free to share it with others that you think will want to hear this information. All right, thanks so much. Thanks, guys.