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The Truth about Chemtrails, Transhumanism, Synthetic Biology, and the Global Lockdown

Sayer Ji, founder of Greenmedinfo.com, author of REGENERATE, interviews Elana Freeland, author, activist, and pioneer in fearlessly shedding light on a range of dark global agendas, talk about the weaponization of the earth's atmosphere, the transhumanistic agenda, and how to navigate these profound times where veils are being lifted and humanity's fate hangs in the balance.

November 24, 2020
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Sayer Ji, founder of Greenmedinfo.com, author of REGENERATE, interviews Elana Freeland, author, activist, and pioneer in fearlessly shedding light on a range of dark global agendas, talk about the weaponization of the earth's atmosphere, the transhumanistic agenda, and how to navigate these profound times where veils are being lifted and humanity's fate hangs in the balance.

Published November 24, 2020 · watch on YouTube.

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hi uh sergey here and i am just so grateful that alana you've taken the time to um really uh answer my call which was i i basically started to read your incredible book um under an ionized sky i was not familiar with it and within a matter of a few pages my mind was simply blown wide open and uh you know i am somebody who um you know likes to stay aware of the topic around chemtrails which of course has been widely attributed to conspiracy theory

and debunked and yet in my own experience you know indexing research for agreement info i was uh pretty blown away to find that there is reference to some type of engineering you know ostensibly for military use etc but it was just the surface that i scratched with that approach and when i found your book and your work it connected so many dots that i just um was uh super compelled to reach out to you and of course you're in the middle of writing another book which

i would love to have you share with us today but um yeah i'm sort of in a way a fan now that's a bit awestruck and i just would love people that follow my work agreement info to know about this incredible contribution you've already made and then as i learn more about your work i realize that you have connected so many dots that i'm just uh i'm just really excited about this opportunity so please feel free to share with our uh viewership maybe just a little

bit about your background and how you came to this work and then uh i'm excited to have you tell us whatever you you want great thank you so much sarah um and it's an honor for me to be with you as well i admire your work greatly and it's such a wonderful community even though we never see each other in the flesh so to speak uh that we're all working with very similar goals to public education so um we're living in extraordinary times and i feel

i know it's hard these are hard times but i am so excited that i have lived long enough because remember i'm a 60s person and i we used to talk about the establishment coming down and our our ideas as a young generation were pretty naive but we had been through the kennedy assassination yesterday was the 57th anniversary of john f kennedy's assassination we had been through martin luther king's assassination we had been through robert kennedy and then all of our our rock stars were started to

be killed by the fbi and cia and operation cointelpro and chaos so um i i've been aware for many years of uh of this globalist dream or nightmare uh that is now uh coming to pass so i i'm really thrilled because it just appears that most people don't really wake up unless they have to and i'm not like that i was pretty wakeful from day one and um and i'm i'm very happy that people are awakening because i can't imagine living on the earth during one's

lifetime and not coming to terms with the time and place that one has chosen to incarnate that is very hard for me to imagine that you would go through you would just kind of sleep through your life and uh and yet materialism is of course very uh healthy in america has been anyway things are changing now slowly but uh the materialistic outlook would see it as uh well this is all there is anyway might as well have a good time uh try to alleviate my pain

as much as possible but not really be that responsible for much of anything and uh that is a complete lie a complete fabrication of materialist and the materialistic west so i've i've been aware of this for many many years uh and um and so i just wanted to say that i'm up for this uh even though it's scary and um and there are i certainly have no friends left because i think for myself but i years ago i've always lived my life from i would say

one mission to another that seems to be my modus operandi i um i was in a mission for chinese medicine and macrobiotics when i was in my early twenties i studied six years uh chinese medicine and and completely changed my american diet to an asian type of diet through the studying with one of the greatest teachers i ever had who was michio kushi in the macrobiotic empire and i was one of the original students i was the only female in the entire group uh which he

allowed and uh and i uh i learned the theory first and then i learned the cooking and and since then uh that's been 50 years about maybe more and i uh gosh i haven't been to a doctor or or even taken an aspirin in well since i was 13 years old so i was raised by immigrants and farmers i understood the value of food in the sense that we had everything was cooked naturally i never saw a loaf of white bread until i was eight or

nine years old i didn't realize that everyone didn't eat as my family said uh and and did um and uh i feel so blessed that i had that upbringing no television so i read i i had to read early from my immigrant grandmother so i could read the letters from the government to make sure they weren't going to send her back to sosa stew and and romania so um i i really i really got a great start well if i could just say too for those

listening it makes so much sense that you share this now because when i started to read some of your book the image of what you have uncovered is so terrifying on some level i'm like how does she hold it together because you're such a um you know just a just a positive healthy energy and and here you go you've been part of this movement before i was even born you know so that's that's really natural yes and it was like that in the 60s we we're

we're characterized by the cia run time magazine and newsweek magazine and you know all those as sex drugs and rock and roll generation but the truth is we were political and we were spiritual seekers and we had tremendous conversations and discussions and it was intense and we were experimenting with uh various lifestyles we're back to the land uh they're the native americans i mean we were just as a generation i can honestly say that the vanguard of it of which i was a member the vanguard

was intensely positive and knowing we're here only for a short time let's really learn as much as we can and we're all going to share what we learn together and that's really what my sub rosa america books are about and that's that's a that's not the hat i'm going to wear today but it was very much the research i did for subrosa america to figure out what happened to america since john kennedy's assassination that led me to having one tiny file on chemtrails and i didn't

know much of anything um 10 or 12 years ago about it i certainly saw things in the sky to a degree but i didn't know what i was looking at so you know i've learned all these years a lot on my own and through the work of many many others who have donated thousands of hours to uh to trying to figure out this national security program that is hardly ever mentioned and is so powerfully working upon everything that you see today and that's what i hope

that i'll show you so i began oh did you want to say something say oh no just that this is um yeah no this is exciting this is why i will share this is that you know i ended up getting into the topic because of what my eyes were showing me and yet interestingly in this day and age you're considered crazy for even mentioning the fact that the weather has changed dramatically and of course there's all this dialectic around you know climate change exists it isn't

and what i love about the context that you're bringing into for ground is that you know it is anthropogenic but it's engineered and it's weaponized and that's something that people i think will understand finally now that they know about your work yes yes and thank you for bringing that up when i started uh this particular mission the mission of bringing geoengineering to public consciousness and what it really is i was living in santa fe new mexico i just gotten back from england i've been there a

few years i'd lived in santa fe before when i got a master's degree at st john's college a fabulous program and i was invited to breakfast by a friend and i met clifford carnacum and clifford was the first independent scientist who began to notice that in those blue azir skies of northern new mexico there were chemtrails and he knew they weren't contrails he knew what a contrail looked like he knew how long a contrail lasts which is about 30 seconds maximum and uh and he recognized

a signature which was entirely chemical so he began collecting all the condensation detritus that was caught in his hepa filter he began to analyze everything with his uh what what tools he had at his disposal he used to work for the department of defense he used to work for the bureau of land management but he had left these large organizations dissatisfied with the direction they were dragging everything so he was on his own and we began to talk about what he was finding now i i

had a second major in college biology i hadn't touched it in all those years except you know when i was a waldorf teacher i i would pull out my biology and sort of make some nice drawings on the board for the children so that they could understand some of the biological uh parallels between the animal kingdom and the human body but now clifford and i began to look through his microscope at what he was finding and what he was finding were these fibers and so i

took what he called the red wine test at that time it was just simply because of the color of the wine you'd clean your mouth clean your teeth as well as you could and then slosh around a mouthful of wine for five minutes spit it into a clean jar and then see what's there and what were there were fibers uh sometimes with their own motility so it was very a very waking experience for me that i had these whatever they were in in my body and

that's how i began um then i was contacted by adam parfri at farrell house and adam asked me if i thought i could write a book on chemtrails well i just met clifford and it just seemed unnatural so i started researching and uh and i wrote the first book and came out in 2014 chemtrails harp and the full spectrum dominance of planet earth and in that book i studied pretty much bernard eastland's patents for the harp installation in kokona alaska harp stands for the high frequency

out active auroral research project i don't even remember now uh and um and then i uh that book gave birth to yet another book because when the harp uh the chemtrails heart book came out i was on coast to coast and received a tremendous outpouring of two or three hundred people after i came off of the show and one of them was a man named billy hayes and billy hayes is known uh as the harp man the harp man because billy had worked for the cia

uh as a um a tower erector and so he worked on the harp uh installation up in alaska and 240 other installations around the world did you see that was uh he worked for the cia yes because the cia was in charge of this program from the first moment and this is this goes back to ronald reagan when he was president george h.w bush was vice president and dick cheney was secretary of defense and um they are the ones who brought forward the strategic defense initiative

the sdi and the sdi is really uh what harp kicked into high gear is what happened um the sdi went black under clinton when clinton became president and um and yet it was worked on constantly it was given out to the public that it was a ballistic missile uh defense program uh that is not what it was at all and uh and so when i wrote the second book uh born out of the previous book it was about the coming to fruition of the sdi program

and and and harp did that harp was definitely experimental and it definitely was its main purpose was to control the ionosphere uh around the earth you know where we live in the troposphere and then there's the stratosphere and then eventually you get to the ionosphere and then above that you have the magnetosphere that's basically uh the subtle bodies if i could shift gears a little into the aqua for a moment those are the subtle bodies of the earth so uh recently i did a rudolph steiner

presentation in which i pointed out that this is a a complete that this geoengineering is a complete assault on the etheric body of the earth and that means it's also an assault on our etheric body since our etheric body and the earth are completely interwoven through the schumann resonance and the schumann resonance is 7.83 in its natural state now the schumann resonance is being manipulated constantly and so it changes uh many uh many degrees uh each time so so when i wrote uh the book you

held up under an eye night sky from chemtrails to space fence lockdown now i was really cooking you might say because billy hayes the heart men had been guiding me toward looking at what else was going on what all of the work in the original harp experiments was about controlling the ionosphere but why what what's the big deal about controlling the ionosphere and bringing that ionized energy down into the earth's atmosphere and basically electrifying our atmosphere and that's what i meant by the title under an

ionized sky our sky now is ionized clifford carnacum had been saying for years that our entire atmosphere had been transformed and that's past tense it is not going to happen it's not just happening now it's it's been completely transformed and so uh the question then of course was why and as i described in the under an ionized sky book i try to paint a picture of how this machine-like transformation of the earth weaponizing it is done so you're looking at the towers all the cell towers

looking at uh the uh geomagnetic current running through the earth you're looking at you know what's around us and and and that's what that whole book is about is to give you a very thorough idea of how the entire earth atmosphere has been completely taken over and that's above nations that's beyond nations now that that gets into a can of worms because as you can imagine the us was in the lead uh after russia was in the lead back with uh some of the experiments we

were finding it doing in the 70s and now the us had pulled ahead and now then russia picked up speed two and caught up and then now china is in on it india is in on it and meanwhile to the public always you hear about nuclear radiation nuclear radiation really that is not what's going on other than of course the depleted uranium use in wars etc terrible terrible uh but it isn't so much the ionized radiation now it's the non-ionized radiation that is now something that

we all need to look at let me ask you then um for those who are listening i think some of you out there have come to the point where you acknowledge that you know weather has been weaponized between sovereign states for example it's you know public documents now exist showing that um but i think that what you pointed out is really extremely topical given we're all in this covid 1984 situation where we see a global governance structure descend that preempts sovereign states rights and of under

the auspices of covet 19 they can pretty much do whatever they want now using that narrative but this layer is absolutely fascinating to me because we're talking about a coordination globally that many would have previously said is conspiracy now we see that they can our architect can execute a global pandemic seamlessly so now it's like wow your work is so so much more believable to the average average person so so yes why have they ionized the skies the question that comes up and why is the

cia and haarp connected in this way is it because it's a psychogenic weapon as well and questions like that yes and i would i would be so bold as to say that had they not been able to acquire this technology and fill in all the gaps and that's what they've spent the last 20 years of geoengineering it's not recent it's been going on for over 20 years this one program that had a variety of things that it wanted to accomplish and in that at that let

me just bring up my little chart so we can start to look at that host disabled attendee let me see do i have to okay let's see share screen um let's see multiple participants can share so you should be able to do it do it now okay project uh cloverleaf is that what you're going to be well this is cloverleaf yeah we can we can talk that's how i talk about it in the book that was the original name of it uh because of course you

know they and people always say this hey they've been doing this fruit since world war one you you know i have a my publisher gave me a wonderful book about um how they had been making these clouds in world war one and there's a bunch of pictures and yeah yeah i understand they they wanted to chemicalize the environment but they didn't have uh the electromagnetic thing together yet and in a way that's why the sdi program which we knew as star wars they called it star

wars and they brought out the star wars series just as they were bringing it out you know they always do that pre-programming with all the films for the public uh so uh they put it away because they didn't have the technology yet to um to bring things to a point where they could actually ionize the entire atmosphere whether you know whether they were zapping the ionosphere or not and drawing down ions they still needed more and that that was basically when they gave us not just

we had the tv already we had the computers but now they gave us then they gave us the cell phones and slowly they were able to bring that curve up of the non-ionized energy in uh the atmosphere and they needed that along with harp so it's all been very experimental for them as they're moving us forward and they you know contrived that cover story of climate change carbons uh had those conferences in 2015 that mr trump very wisely pulled out of so that we wouldn't be

pouring our money down the drain uh and uh and this is the direction that we've gone in you ask why the cia was involved yes it was because this is the way that they're going to that they are controlling us so even when you mention the covid19 delivery system you have to look at this program this is how they're going to do it and in fact let's forget going to this is how they do it and uh let's go through the different things that uh that

actually uh are going on can everybody see that then yeah it looks cool okay all right so really this is from clifford carnacum clifford gave me basically this paradigm this structure the scaffolding upon which to hang all my studies regarding how extensive geoengineering really is which again remember is a classified program it is not non-classified so so first we have the weather engineering and yes now people are getting the hang a lot of people know oh they're manipulating the weather and of course i'm always asked

is there any natural weather left and i have to say not to my knowledge there is no natural weather that i that i uh to my knowledge and i hear from people all over the world we're not just talking in the united states i mean i'm in touch with i don't know hundreds thou a few thousand people and uh and it's going on everywhere to some degree certainly heavily in nato countries because in nato countries the american military and the its geo engineers can really experiment

uh because that's one of the things you have to sign off on when you become a nato country is that you will be available for experimentation of cutting-edge weaponry so uh so first we have weather engineering and the weather engineering is very important yes we're talking tornadoes storm systems fires the like in california i would include that under the weather engineering anything where they have to lay a lot of chemical trails a few days in advance and that's that's that's essential because just think about it

you can't run electromagnetic operations in a vacuum so in order to run extensive weapons uh in and the atmosphere you're gonna have to be able to possibly uh you're gonna have to be able to collect it you're gonna have to be able to control its vector uh you're gonna have to be able to uh to uh run uh everything around it to some degree so that you can you can target that one area and uh and that's that's really uh what weather engineering is all about

uh is working with the chemical trails the particulates in the chemical trails the nano particulates in the chemical trails so that you have matter in the uh atmosphere and you need that in order to ionize more and keep the ionized keep it going keep it keep it going and and building or diminishing if that's what you're doing and so they use laser systems they use transmitters uh in radar installations uh there are many many things they use but you've got to have the electromagnetic component along

with a weather system that's pulled off of the south pacific that's where most of the weather is made could i just ask you um one of the things that blew my mind about your book was that you pointed out that commercial uh aircraft have by default apparently um what is it maybe ten percent of the fuel contains things like aluminum and barium is that is that true then by default the entire global aviation industry is dispersing a certain background level of of these chemicals that and

then on top of it there's special programs to concentrate in areas but that the that's what right you'd think that if it's a military program which it is uh that it would be military jets but no you're right that's what project cloverleaf means project cloverleaf is about inducting all of the major airlines into this distribution program and so they have to sign non-disclosure agreements uh if uh if an airline refuses to cooperate they're probably going to go out of business so it was it was a

very big deal and we're talking 20 years ago in order to bring all of this uh delivery system online especially after harp had done its job that would it would close down in 2013 from the previous experiments wherein they were able to at last control the ionosphere absolutely control it by the way uh so then they could it could really ramp it up so that's only seven years ago uh that it was terrifically ramped up and if you if you paid attention to the weather that

was going on here and there in whatever year you're in whatever season you're in and compare it with other years you'll see that they had a schedule by which one year they're they're experimenting with earthquakes another year they're experimenting with tornadoes and storm fronts uh i mean it it's very much about them finding a way to control these systems and they do it through a a type of science that lieutenant colonel tom bearden talks about uh it's it's all scalar technology and i don't want to

go into that today it's you know i'm still learning about it and scalar waves are basically longitudinal waves whereby you can actually develop standing wave systems and what that means is then if you have control over that standing wave system you can move things in and out from a variety of um of like satellite you could have involved there's of course the ionized element in the atmosphere already you could have geomagnetic things going on in the earth you could use tomographical rays going into the earth

that stimulate the geomagnetics of the earth to add to the energy pool that you're going to now manipulate so you know this was must have been terribly exciting for the scientists who were all in this uh this echelon which had such power and such a an extraordinary amount of money catherine austin fitz has referred many times to the 20 uh i think it was 21 trillion dollars that's missing from the american budget and also posited uh she she was a big fan of mine of that

book that came out uh that posited that it had a lot of it had gone into this this program because this is part of the secret space program there's no question in my mind uh and so them they're manipulating the weather all the way through uh you know the terrible fukushima i explained that very thoroughly that that was a harp operation no question about it they use this this type of weaponry called interferometry where they they take a array from one place an array from another

place and maybe a third ray and they they all intersect over the target area and then 911 as well yes definitely i think i start the book out with 911 don't i yeah because uh yes it certainly there there were inside detonations that uh would would have backed it up but that was very much a directed energy weapon display just as judy wood says in her great book where did the towers go which every american should look at i was always trying to understand how thermite

alone could create free fall speed area of most resistance obviously this other component would help explain well and the really scary part is the dustification that went on the firemen wading through a very strange magnetic dust that's what was left of those people's bodies and of the destruction that went on there so you're talking a whole other system of weaponry and i think you can imagine that they don't really want people to know about it right because it's a very powerful and it's particularly powerful if

you don't know what it is would this speak then to the reality of a you know transnational you know sort of like shadow group that you know would would even be able to preempt nuclear uh you know uh conflict between nations that this they have technology that basically could even yes something like that yeah oh yes these are the global elites that's all i call them uh absolutely they're in charge and they you know there are there are secret brotherhoods secret societies uh kennedy gave that

great secret society speech just months before he was killed and um you know you go after the cia well you've got a big problem you go after secret societies you've got a bigger problem because um the i think the earth has been run by secret societies for thousands of years so so yes um there is there is something overarching and it's tempting for some people to blame aliens or as i call it import from off planet i don't really need to import from off planet i

i might import a little bit from quantum physics because there is something um if we get to the nano level which i'm trying to believe it or not uh we are at the quantum threshold of life when we're talking about nanotechnology and now we're into something very serious which is partially off planet in the sense that it's from probably from other dimensions and has frequencies that are uh are able to undermine ours and so you know now now we're in we're in an off-planet situation with

that um but let me go ahead and and we'll catch up with that so the next thing which is not really separate as you can see it's connected to but it has its own uh objectives is the chemical electromagnetic operations now you need chemical and electromagnetic in order to cause weather systems to become extreme in order to park tornadoes or hurricanes off offshore and park them for days at a time uh you know that happened one year so you need you need chemical and electromagnetic for

any of the weather operations can also become an energy source right uh through lightning and under the thunderstorm if you can you know you can get a lot of energy you can ionize the atmosphere with some of that energy so so these things work together the third one planetary geophysical that's where i would really include the uh california fires and i have a chapter in the new book on the california fires wherein i i show how that works and how it depends on nanotechnology believe it

or not so some of those out there who don't know that there were images that appeared of for example you know you know metal cars just melting alongside vegetation that wasn't burnt and so that's an example right it was very similar to what judy woods pointed out in her book about how there were pieces of papers floating around but everything else had been dustified so what was with the paper well it was its frequency was that of wood and uh and it was not subject to

the frequency that had been dialed in for destruction so those two out there that everything's a wave form if you will what appears solid or hard if you get the right frequency you could cause it to alter or even disappear right yes oh yeah yeah so um planetary geophysical then we go down to the fourth operation which is the directed energy weapons and here it's an interesting thing because right away i start thinking of plasma weapons i'm thinking of mostly beam weapons which are being used

in space as i speak but really now that the whole earth has been weaponized and uh even what is now living inside our bodies which i'll get to um it's all been weaponized so the directed energy weapon which used to be called believe it or not non-lethal weapons years ago an amazing hubris to call it that and these are now very many because once you know how to manipulate radio frequency and pulse and you have you have means to pulse frequencies you have directed energy weapons

you can weaponize you can weaponize the 60 hertz in your walls that's feeding your electric system for your lights and your stove and stuff you can you can use it anywhere and that's really what a lot of people who are being targeted with these weapons we're hearing more and more about that i know i i must know two dozen people who are being targeted with these weapons with the weaponizing of their own homes yes would you agree that the smart meters can help to um oh

yes yeah in a way the smart meter is the gatekeeper and they go through the gatekeeper to to trigger the internet of things in the home the all the electric appliances uh the the different parts of you know the 60 hertz in the walls uh the cell phones the tv uh all of it gets can uh it would go through the uh smart meter gatekeepers was their plan as you know many people are opting out so what will happen then well in a way they'll do

all right because people own cell phones now i don't own a cell phone i don't see any reason to own that weapon system just as i don't own a television i don't see any reason to own that weapon system either so uh i'm gonna say that's so powerful because people are worried about being microchipped and irradiated with small cell installations and call it a weapon system is such a very accurate uh description so thank you yeah and it came from the military i mean what do

you expect they had all these technologies they gave us before we had them they had them for at least one to two generations so they could work out the kinks and get them to be what they call dual use dual use is a military term for something that can be used in civilian life and military life okay so now we're on to the fifth uh operation surveillance and neural and this is uh what you were talking about with the cia mind control um yes this is

uh this is uh very big now and it's mainly the satellite system that is being utilized and now we have elon musk sending up thousands more and it is about 5g these thousands more and these little cubesats that they use but it's it's more more directly it's to really acquire uh control and access to the nervous systems of people and they're going to be able to do that primarily because we have breathed in the nanotechnology that has been distributed by the chemical trails of the jets

drones and rockets and these nanobots and that nanobot means nanorobot it's a nanosized a nano is one billionth of a meter in size it's at the atomic level because a nano is actually created by laying one atom next to another atom next to another atom etc and nanotechnology is uh is one of the the biggest weapon systems that uh is secret and we're talking secret in full daylight uh it's in everything right it's in cosmetics it's in foods certainly most processed i'd say i'd say all

processed foods have nano in nano particles in them now there are natural nanoparticles there always have been on the earth just means a size thing but um but now they are being made and they are being constructed they are a whole building philosophy and they are behind uh the the future transhumanism that our masters of the universe want all of us to submit to yes if i could add just you think it's conspiracy um alphabet which owns google they also have a health uh extension i

think it's called verity and they're very open about how it's all about nanomedicine and creating these injectable ingestible nano dust-like entities so anyway yes yes and and it is uh well i'll get to that but we'll concentrate on the surveillance neural so what they need in order to control uh there's population control and then there's maybe a regional control and then there's maybe individual control so all of these require a different approach but all of them what all of them need is the ionized atmosphere so

that those electromagnetic operations can go forward they also will probably need a certain amount of nanoparticles in the atmosphere continuously that's why when people write me and say oh ilana the the uh they stopped laying the chemtrails we had clear skies today and i'm i'm like well maybe you know good for you enjoy it but i very much doubt that because uh they haven't gotten the tech maybe someday they will get the technology to the point where they don't need to lay so many nanoparticles i

don't know but at that by that point it seems that we will have merged in some way with the nanoparticles uh on some uh quantum level that whereby we don't even notice them anymore so um the surveillance is the to me the least of our problems though when you when i use the word surveillance we're also talking um about how these nano sensors that they're dropping by the trillions in the upper atmosphere come down we breathe them in they're in us they're all reporting back to

uh computer central about various things they're sensing in us in our bodily movements in our our behaviors in our moods and whatever they have programmed these nano sensors to do that that's part of the surveillance as well and that is of great concern because once again it's on a nano scale that's that's the scale that we need to really be concentrating on that the fact that the eye in the sky that's been there since who since the first round of george w h w bush uh

i don't even think of privacy anymore i assume i have no privacy whatsoever but the neural now we're the word neural has come up a lot in in the programming of the public by elon musk with his neural mesh and he makes it sound like the neural his neural mesh and maybe his neural mesh will require a minor surgery but basically speaking the neural mesh i'm concerned about uh are the self-assembling self um replicating nanotechnology that we're breathing from chemical trails and uh and those are

straight in through the lungs uh through the lungs to the blood system and straight through the blood-brain barrier because they're so tiny no problem so uh so those are the ones uh the neural mesh i'm concerned about that they are in there they are remotely controlled they are reporting to whatever laptop boy is responsible for this particular area or this particular algorithm or whatever um and uh and that's that's the concern i have is the nanoparticles if i could just um insert if you will that

for most people that haven't really gone down the rabbit hole when they hear this i think they want they want to believe that this is crazy because it's so i it's so paralyzing and so scary and even myself sometimes when i start to um really think about the implications especially having children and it's really a difficult i'm just curious um for yourself and for those who are listening like how i don't want to take it too far a tangent but is there a way for us

to mitigate and prevent this or is that maybe at the end we can talk about that well just just think how people felt when uh the microscope was invented and they saw an entire world of tiny weirdos and those tiny weirdos were often in our bodies just imagine how they felt they felt similarly and and that was those were microbes that were naturally created by mother nature uh now we're we're entering another realm wherein the human being is uh involved in this so let's let's take

it to the end and then we will talk about it because that's pretty exciting uh in my mind that we are facing a technology uh which is not only denied as existing but um is uh is tremendously powerful on a physiological level but we are not just physiological beings i'll give you the preview on that to amplify the relevance to the listeners is that we have colleagues in italy who did an assay of the vaccines on the market in europe and found you know that every

single one of them had nanoparticles metal type nanoparticles within them always right and they're already in intentionally injecting these things into us so so your topic is highly relevant so i'm sorry no no it's fine and that that's important to bring up because the vaccinations and the gmo foods are two other delivery systems okay consciously made it's not an accident they as you know i mean we had the clue years ago when monsanto said that they had an aluminum resistant seed and they were dropping nano

aluminum on us till the cows come home and of course you know the terminator seed was able to handle that because they were all on the same team and they were all headed where we are now this is globe this is what the global village really means what they're setting up now so you know all right so so let's go to the next one after surveillance neural we're in the sixth operation of geoengineering and that's digital biology nanotechnology transhumanism i kind of stuffed them all together

because they are very connected so what digital biology means and that's now we're getting to where i'm spending all my time um or at least a lot of time now in this third book this is my last book i want people to witness this i am not going to write another geoengineering book this is where i'm culminating with uh you know the uh the end of the symphony of this whole thing of these three books the title of this book is geoengineered transhumanism how the environment

has been weaponized by chemicals electromagnetics and nanoparticles for synthetic biology and that's that's what's going on did molecular biology the kind of biology i studied in undergrad many many years ago uh is really not that useful to me now because all the molecular biology is being digitized and and what that means that means a lot of things but one of the things it means is imagine that you want to send a covid 19 somewhere maybe to wuhan or somewhere else you don't need the virus all

you need is its signature that you can transmit electromagnetically that's all you need so that's that's the uh to me that's the really scary news is um is that this is the direction they're going in uh where you hear stories of uh kids who are playing a lot of virtual reality games and you hear about the um the sws uh uh what does that mean sws uh i hate these acronyms because i end up not remembering what they mean there's a system by which they are

making a virtual reproduction of ilana so there's ilana here in the flesh and ilana doing various things but because i have all the nano sensors in me and around me uh everything's being monitored and fed to a a a deep learning supercomputer or quantum computer and they are slowly making a digital representation of me not just the physical me but the uh the the whole package and the idea being and there have been you know some really cool science fiction novels about this uh the idea

being that eventually the vr representation of ilana they can communicate directly with that and that will run me and i won't even know i'm being run by it well if i could just mention to listener netflix somehow released their social dilemma doc documentary that that that actually articulates this vision pretty clearly which i was very surprised to see through a big tech platform like them and then also luke montagne's dna teleportation experiment prove that absolutely an electromagnetic signal can transmit through space and time and then

cause reassembly of dna and other biologicals through really just it seems almost like magic but this is now happening through nobel prize winning scientists like him and so yes yes so so okay so the digital biology and then the nanotechnology i've already told you that we have breathed in or eaten or been vaccinated with a lot of nanotechnology and that we can expect that nanotechnology will be in anything that we have if we are uh if we go to hospitals and uh submit ourselves to doctors

and the medicines all of all the big pharma medicines are all nanotech because this is a grand experiment of the in my opinion this is just my opinion uh of the global elite to to develop a yes a slave class but also to to become as gods on planet earth uh and to to run humanity in a direction that is not the direction that the the true godhead uh had in mind you might say and so uh that's how it is i don't see anything radical

in thinking that unless i've been living under a rock for the last 50 years uh i know that's realize this i'm just curious because it's only come to people like myself in this window but what but i imagine you saw this well i saw it many years ago but not not in this degree not in this nanotechnology way i had i had i didn't know anything about that but i knew because of my study of mkultra i spent 10 years studying mkultra in order to understand

what the cia had been doing from the end of world war ii to supposedly they ended it in 1973 which of course they didn't and now we have remote uh mk ultra we have what i call e mk ultra electronic where programming can be done at a distance and if they have your signature the signature the signature is a frequency and uh and so i i knew uh i knew where they were going and i've been you know i've been yelling and ranting and raving for

years as many people you know and i was called a conspiracy theorist and and uh you know unfortunately i've never been wrong about my so-called conspiracy theories because i back things up with a tremendous amount of research and good thinking thanks to rudolph steiner who really taught me how to think um so let's finish this uh and i'm determined to get through this list i have an infinite number of questions that i've been keeping to myself okay but please continue okay so so let's finish up

the digital biology nanotechnology okay transhumanism some people don't know what that means transhumanism is an enhanced version some would call it of a human being it is more honestly it is a a b c i a brain computer interface human being uh where we're plugged in through our nervous system to ai programs and we are uh we are run accordingly and what they want to make sure of is that you don't really know you're being run uh because you're a happy camper uh you know you

hear this from uh schmidt or whatever his name is from uh the uh the the global uh organization that's promulgating this thing that will be happy claus schwab yeah schwab that we will be happy we won't own anything but that's really great and um and they'll own us and we already know that that certainly is true and has been to my mind been true for many years that human beings are in a certain geographic area are partially why wars are fought is to own those human

beings who then will uh will create more funds than they cost to keep sort of thing so so you know it's it's it's just a sort of clever now very technological way of doing what has always been done um but it seems to me that more of the uh inner circle elites are in on this and that uh it's it's finally here i i think they've been working on this some some would go way back to uh the uh reformation or something like that but for

me this has been going on since the failure um of the league of nations at the end of world war one uh and that was the first throwing the hat in the ring to have like a united nations a one world governing body and uh and and so they it appears to me that what they did because that failed and then it just seemed that the un got a pretty flaky start and it seems that they decided oh we've got the technology now let's do it

through the environment but first we'll take over the environmentalist movement which they did and uh and then uh we'll we'll make everything green which they have which is not green at all and uh and then um we've got this fantastic technology all the way down to the minuscule by which we can plug everything into ai systems and run it all from laptops or fusion centers anywhere uh so so it just what is surprising sarah is that they they actually made the big move now i'm like

wow i i was like yeah i was like thrilled i'm gonna be alive for this this is good because i've been no i've known this is coming for 50 years and okay the final one the seventh cloaking and obscuration and detection of exotic propulsion craft let's do that one first yes we have exotic propulsion craft we have had it since we brought the nazis over under operation paperclip we have had it since tesla however you want to look at it we've been working out the kinks

i'm sure there's things going on on the moon uh as to whether they can make the jump to light speed to saturn or jupiter i don't know i don't really pursue that line of inquiry but i know we have exotic propulsion craft and um and it is able to do extraordinary things far in advance of anything that most people know and then the other part we have to put in which is the uh cloaking obscuration detection of plasma life forms they are creating their own plasma

life forms there's many many plasma experiments going on in in our atmosphere in the troposphere but there are others that wilhelm reich pointed us to and trevor constable pointed us too i used to email with trevor before he died he wrote the book the cosmic pulse of life in which he has maybe 20 pages of black and white photos that he took with infrared film out on the desert of entities beings they're not from alpha centauri they're simply what they look like were they look like

giant uh versions of what i used to look at through my microscope in biology in college they look like microbes and some of them have little eyes and so they have little mouths and some of them have little hairy things around them i mean yes if you look at an electromagnetic spectrum and you see that our our our little wedge is so tiny we can't see beyond beyond much of anything we can't see all the way to the gamma rays we can't see uh to the

microwaves and the radio waves so so given that that our perception our beautiful five senses are have that limitation uh it is no it is not mysterious to me that there are all sorts of entities probably in this room with me right now i can't see them and in a way i'm kind of glad i can't see them because then i can concentrate on some other things that i want to do uh so that's those are the seven um the seven operations of geoengineering far beyond

just the weather that's amazing um like i said i'd like a thousand questions but that's not useful to uh the exposition here so um but i really do feel like one colleague of mine mentioned they'd listen to one of your interviews and you discussed how i believe that in some regions let's say it's um some part of the jungle in costa rica there could be some type of almost like shield or ionic or yeah plasma shield so i'm i'm wondering um of course i know you

probably have um more to to tell us before we can maybe talk a little bit about what we can do because um you know for whatever reason i'm relatively immune to plunging into the darkness and and this is where i like to live as well but i just know so many of my followers are like oh my god what do we do now and this is crazy so yeah yeah yeah so uh so yeah i'll i'll just say about the plasma shield um not not difficult

to make really uh i think there was a tv show uh called under the under the globe no under the shield under the something that was on for a few years that was probably pre-programming us for the idea of living under plasma umbrellas when things got hot and heavy in space wars or whatever that were coming into our atmosphere i think that that plasma the fourth state of matter is very very important and there are many many plasma experiments going on in our atmosphere and a

lot of times when you see you know maybe a cloud that looks like it that bounces on the earth it has that much substance in it that it's bouncing or you see a corkscrew of a cloud that sort of is traveling vertically through the atmosphere whatever all these things these are all plasma in fact these clouds that you see in the sky i'm looking up there now i don't think there are any uh to speak of real moisture clouds anymore i think they're mostly dry plasma

clouds and they can be made wet by bringing in a moisture system and you know impregnating uh maybe not with silver nitrate anymore but in an electromagnetic way impregnating a storm system with it or something like that but uh but generally speaking most clouds now are made of plasma okay so let's talk about how to live with this kind of information i gave you the picture of of how it might have been when the microscope was invented we could even say the telescope but i think

the microscope was probably more shocking because that had to do with where we live and i think the first thing people need to do is um and americans are just horrible at this is uh is get accustomed to learning things without your emotions being front and center it's not about whether you like something or you dislike something it's about knowledge real knowledge is power and you can translate it into power for use in a situation like we're in now where we're confronted by a very new

technology a very large scale assault on humanity and nature because they they really want to do without nature they are not a friend of nature so we need to know our enemy and know how they think and what they've got going need to translate a lot of the paper this is what i do i translate a lot of the papers i read a lot of the patents i read into something i can understand i don't i don't dwell on the things that are too mathematical or

too chemical formulaic i concentrate on what is being said about the technology and how it works and then i listen to others i have several scientists who are who have left the fold of conventional science and are available to me to when i get stuck or when i want to run an idea by them but basically we're all in new ground this is not like you can take courses on this if you get into yale or harvard not so now there are science enclaves which the

elite support and the one that i would recommend people learn about and one i have learned about are the jasons and the jasons are the creme de la creme of uh bright uh forward-looking futuristic looking scientists who who are given the best of the best that they need to know whereas our universities often our science programs are completely controlled and uh our the best stuff is not even allowed there because you must you must keep these tiers separate is has been the idea from the beginning

i see the wisdom in that for that for their sake uh and uh and if you're going to control an entire planet you have to have a certain series of illusions so you know keep the newtonian uh einsteinian science for as long as you can given that they've moved uh completely into something other they they're not in that anymore so these are things we need to come to terms with um i'm i'm the worst person to come to for hand-holding because i'm a i'm a warrior

i'm i'm on the front lines to a certain degree regarding giving out public information fortunate for me i think i would be dead now if i had a phd i opted to not get a phd and i'm very very happy that i did that i somehow knew that you had you were going to have to find things on your own and not go in to be programmed at yet another university and then have to de-program yourself in order to be able to continue learning so um

fortunate for me i had that wisdom now uh what is going on in this movement that i've been involved in now for 10 years there are a lot of people who are experimenting on their own bodies we see our bodies as test tubes as beakers in a chemical lab for one thing i have the nanos in me i've had an outbreak uh once years ago when uh clifford and i were going to meet and um before i left about a week or two before i was

scheduled to go to his place and we were going to work in his lab and look at a lot of specimens people had been sending of morgellons i had a a big outbreak on my calves on both my calves and so when i went to cliffords we we had to spend a lot of time or we felt we had to spend a lot of time looking at what was going on with my legs so we spent a lot of time looking at stuff coming that we

scraped with a razor blade off of my legs so that we could see what was there and there was some more guillains but it was definitely something else and it appeared to be um mostly crystals uh and it appeared to be that it was sort of uh like my turning my legs into an antenna and then when i went back home within two weeks it overnight cleared up and that's when i realized that probably i should consider the possibility that they were able to remotely trigger

an outbreak in my legs and then uh make it go away by reprogramming the nanobots uh so so i've learned a lot through my own experience and then i've been there to see other people's pictures many people send me pictures of morgellons outbreaks um and i um tony pantalaresco is someone i i know he knows about you but you may not know about him he's a canadian herbalist uh with an impossible italian name uh pantalaresco and he he is uh has for 10 years now been

uh he had morgellons quite bad and so he started uh really digging into what could make himself better and he has it has grown into a huge uh where thousands of people come to tony to get ideas on uh on how to solve the problems they're seeing from the nano scale uh technology uh he also uses he uses uh different herbs and different supplements and he also uses magnetics and i think if i were to guess i would say that the future in order to control

the nano population in our bodies which will be used as antennas for transmissions uh i would say that it will be magnetics that will help us the most and so we're all kind of experimenting now and uh and looking at uh you know not not worrying so much about the chemtrails and making them go away as as really paying attention to the nanotechnology aspect of what we now have our hosts for we we've been hosts for bacteria we've been host for parasites uh you know all

manner of things but this may be the first time in history uh that we've been host for a man-made uh genetically engineered uh entity uh that they're calling inorganic life form well also i was going to ask you if you have an opinion comment on this rollout of you know obviously transhumanistic mrna vaccines they were looking at rna and dna vaccines and they've never been done before so obviously it seems like it's your book and your work right now is super timely and super timely yeah

it was amazing when that happened i uh and i recognized it right away in wuhan uh whether or not those people fell uh because they were actors or it really was oxygen depletion or whatever i immediately intuited yes the 5g and i i then checked to make sure that wuhan actually had done a 5g and it turned out they'd done it in spades they'd done super super 5g and and what we saw was the transmission of a particular something or other now they say it's a

coronavirus there are 100 over 100 types of coronavirus um was it a weaponized one well maybe because in order to patent a natural creation uh they have to uh do something to it they have to tweak it somehow and it's possible that that's what happened i don't know we're dependent on news sources that lie all the time so uh obviously though it has worked for whatever they had in mind for uh world power um but i i would say that uh the the biological uh if

you can see the future you'll you'll realize that yeah i think they're going to use uh the digital biology model as long as they can what would what would destroy that well you know if there's a tear in the web of the uh of this space fence lockdown this uh this huge uh control over uh planet earth in the atmosphere well i would imagine that it would be uh it could be a real problem uh but i you know i don't i'm not concentrating on that

now of uh the saboteur part of me is not thinking along those lines really looking at the idea that these nanobots uh i alluded to it before let me be clearer because they're so tiny and they're basically subatomic um they are right on the threshold of of of quantum dimensions and um i'll go with uh whoever said that if you if if you don't think quantum physics is weird you obviously don't understand it uh i think that um just like cern when i i cover cern

in that book you're reading now i call it the temple of cern um cern is about uh contacting that quantum dimension or quantum dimensions and um so are the nanobots the nanobots have they are not individual by any means they have to work in together in what is called a swarm uh and that swarm has a consciousness very much so it isn't just from the laptop boys in colorado springs who are programming it they it has its own consciousness as it moves through our body so

i'm assuming okay so it's on the threshold of the quantum dimensions when i think my brain doesn't produce that thought my brain is the diving board i'm the diver and uh and my dive is my thought so i what is creating my thought is that part of me lives in those quantum dimensions and i am a resident as a spiritual being of those quantum dimensions that i am from that i or that i have made a home in through my own thinking and endeavors in this

life uh so so i am superior as a conscious being to the nanobots who can only think collectively and be programmed from abroad so this is the trail i'm following now is is to look into we have never used our consciousness truly responsibly other than individuals here and there who have of course but imagine that you could actually take hold of your consciousness and run those nanobots as a superior being superior even to the ones in colorado springs so that that's kind of the way i'm

thinking now say and as far as my experiments in that i do run my own experiments when i have a small outbreak and i have one now in my left ankle and years ago i encountered a targeted individual wonderful woman i think she's dead now killed and she told me once she said remember your feet are connected to the mag the geomagnetic field and one of your feet is the positive anode the other is the negative and so when one foot is activated in a certain

way the other foot is the compensation for that so i've been thinking about that regarding um how my left foot is now uh i would say too positive and the earth being negative uh and uh and um the nanos are all collecting there and have made some sort of city in there and therefore puff up my ankle right but not not like elephantiasis or anything but they they are in there and i can i'm like in touch with them so i pay attention to my diet

and i pay attention to them and i think i guess that's how i do things i'm one of those people that sees the glasses half full not half empty i've always been that way and so um i'm excited to be doing this research into this technology that is uh is certainly omnipresent now well maybe for those two that you know may not naturally relate to this level of conversation because i find it absolutely compelling is that one way that i've come to a similar realization i

believe is that you know the whole agenda you're describing in exquisite detail is predicated on us identifying with you know our if you will you know neocortex uh you know sort of like hyper reflexive mind and the heart itself maybe as we develop it because it's an organ that you know needs to be exercised and stretched and has all these dimensions that we haven't accessed i don't think that that system can co-opt a human heart as it develops right as a warrior as someone who is

dedicated to service and that's why i'm placing my bet is that as i develop as a being that we can continue to explore these spaces um and and reveal the darkness but then stay you know um safe knowing that that this this cannot be co-opted right our hearts and if we connect like we're doing this agenda maybe will not you know come to pass i'm hoping well it's it's it's simply that the human the human being you know is precious very precious this is not a

higher ape that is not what we are and um and this um that's why i work so hard is i see now their their end game is to replace us with a cyborg and uh i i i refuse i i want people to be able to still come to planet earth and have whatever life experiences they have in order to further their development of true free will because a lot of people think oh we have free will no you don't very few people have real free

will i've met maybe maybe three in my whole life who really can command themselves and as i used to say to high school students when i was a high school teacher i'd walk by their desks sophomores perfect year 15 year old 16 year old and i'd say all right i'm going to tell you the secret of life now and this is the one that you need in order to be a success as a human being as a person you ready you listening okay all you need

to do is one thing to be able to tell yourself what to do and you do it or to tell yourself not to do something and you don't do it to command yourself then everything will open before you now is that true or not amen i mean in this window i'm getting governed thyself you know that that that's part of what we're seeing is that if we are dependent in any way on this system our cell phones amazon you know we're not we're we don't master

our life and um so that's beautiful yeah and it's the humanity it's keep that in mind it's not just one's personal safety that's at stake here this is this is the human future they want to be as gods on this slave planet and i say no no that is not what i want so i will do the best i can do my job and support others who are doing similar work amen i mean i'm so excited that we're able to have this conversation because when i

saw your work first of all i'm like i need to get everyone that i know to get your book and know about you because part of my strategy early on was that if the more people that know about me this work the less likely i disappear and no one notices you know and i know we live in a world now where there's less deletion of people you know there's more of disappearance other other ways but i want people to know about your work support you let's

all get excited for your new book that's coming out i'd love to get that out as far and wide as possible and how can people stay in touch with you and support you the um i have a site called ilanafreeland.com run by my webmistress and there is a paypal button which i'm always grateful someone sent me a hundred dollars last week and i was so grateful to him uh and uh i don't have any patreon site i don't i need to stay a free agent for

a while longer so i can finish this book and uh you can buy my books through evil amazon or you can go through the publisher i had a publisher for those two books at farrell house i'm now on my own for the third book and i'll be designing the cover and everything i'm excited and and otherwise uh yeah you can find probably several hundred videos of me on the internet talking about this uh over the years yeah wonderful lana well you're not alone because when the

book comes out i'll be spreading it far and wide and uh you know i thank you so much for your work your time your energy and i'd love to uh have another conversation maybe after the book is out we can go and and just you know make a big deal out of it okay thank you there thank you so much thank you so much all right well it's been great and uh everyone check the show notes out please stay in touch with her incredible work and

uh look forward to seeing you again all right thank you so much um for this opportunity um let's see oops i hope i hope you

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Sayer JiFounder of GreenMedInfo (2008), the open-access natural-health research database; author of Regenerate (Hay House, 2020) and Shadow Empire: The Epstein Files (Skyhorse, 2026); chair of the Global Wellness Forum; convener of Restore the First.
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