The Truth is Finally Coming Out… About Health Freedom

So today we're going to discuss something that I really have never talked about in the video and it has to do with censorship and what happened to natural health a few years ago. You're going to find this interview very interesting because yes, it was very very scary. But on a positive note, it has a happy ending which I'm going to share with you. But I would say a few years ago, I can't tell you the exact date, but I know it was in May. It was

all of a sudden I went to my YouTube channel and literally I couldn't even find myself before I was like all over the place and then I you couldn't even find me. So I was majorly censored and then I was told you had to take down a whole series of videos. So I took down all my cancer videos and I put everything on Rumble. Uh anything related to vitamin D and natural immunity, I had to take those down. I had to take down anything related to

COVID. Like there was a whole things I had to just take all these things down and then they were going to give me a free pass. But what moved in was medical and so instead of if you typed in something to find me you had to kind of go way deep because they had Mayo Clinic, Harvard, all these different sites and so I didn't know what was happening at the time but now I know exactly what was happening. They use CO as a Trojan horse to

turn and rebrand natural health. And so today I actually brought on a terrorist or at least someone that was labeled as a terrorist, part of the dirty dozen. He's a very good friend of mine, a beautiful human being. Ser G. Welcome Sar G. >> Thanks so much for having me Dr. Bur. >> I just have a lot of admiration for you, what you've been through, but here [snorts] you have this amazing channel. I I interviewed you years ago and you had this amazing channel with all

this research trying to help people with natural remedies from sunlight to botanicals, all sorts of things. And somehow they targeted you as one of the dirty dozen. And can you tell us a little bit about would they classify you under a terrorist or what? Yes, it sounds like a story too strange to be true, but it did happen. And yes, I along with others were basically labeled as domestic extremists. And uh DHS actually used the phrase terrorists at one point to describe those who were advocates

of natural health um dietary lifestyle modification for making your life better and healthier as well as those who were standing up for medical freedom. So that did happen in the window between 20 and 21 until you know really until the latest uh shift in in the power structure. >> Before we get into that shift, let's talk about what it was like. You had a website, you had a business, you had a YouTube channel. They just deplatformed you. Well, actually, interestingly, as you pointed out, many people

were starting to see censorship from the perspective of Google basically taking search results offline in 2019. And I know you were probably one of those because you, like me, have spent your life just sharing information that, you know, we're excited to get out there. And so, um, Google did their digital book burning event in 2019. it was August where 99% of all natural health results when you search Google were removed overnight. And so that was um the beginning of what we saw being kind of a

nightmare when it comes to free speech and being able to share uh alternative views of health which include natural integrative functional medicine. Uh, but it was really the disinfozen campaign that was initiated in uh May of that put us on the so-called uh hit list when it comes to being um attacked. >> Let's just take a look at your crimes. Okay. Disagreeing with consensus. So when we talk about consensus, are they talking about really scientific proof or is it pretty much just whatever they agree on?

I mean, it's like whatever the medical profession agrees on is consensus, right? >> I think you're really hitting the nail on the head. In fact, well, peer review is supposed to really produce a consensus on certain topics. So what I've done with greenmedinfo.com is gather at this point a 100,000 published peer-reviewed studies in support of natural health. So you'd think that the consensus actually supports sharing that information. But because essentially we have what I think is better described as eminencebased medicine versus evidence-based medicine. uh meaning

historically the CDC has uh basically made pronouncements you know sort of like um proclamations versus hey here's all the research saying that ketogenic diet for example is not healthy for you you know they don't do that they tend to rely on people's blind faith and authority >> yeah and I think if we um if we just look at the essence of what happened it's um because I look through the the policy the YouTube channel policy on misinformation and that is pretty much if you disagree with

consensus then that is misinformation. I think you and I and everyone watching would agree that science is supposed to disagree. We may made all the major discovery through disagreement and now we have to I mean this has just gotten to the point where it's just so like what planet am I in the matrix? [laughter] What is that going on? I mean even like in the the 21st edition of this book right here the US dispensary book where this is uh written in 1926 this was a

medical book and like over 75% of the remedies were botanicals right >> now zero so pretty much now here we are doing what medicine did way back then and uh boy it's like we get attacked we get silenced you can't talk about certain things and it's just it's fascinating because it's almost like what side of science are you on? Are you part of our group of science or are you on the real science? So, it's really been frustrating navigating through all this. But I think someone

like you that's been right in the middle of it. Literally, it destroyed your business, family, everything. It was very much like an inquisition and persecution which I found to be almost poetic because as you rightly point out you know today people think in terms of well let's trust the science or science is settled and that's not what science is actually. It's more a methodology of discovery and coming to understand reality you know through testing and retesting and changing your hypothesis. And so essentially what you know

I found is that we have instead what's really scientism which is I think a religion that has actually devoured all other religions. you know during the you know so-called uh declared pandemic some called a plemic what we saw was all our religious leaders from the Daly Lama to the pope saying you know what although we believe in a himsa we don't believe in using uh let's say dloy fetus derived tissue and injecting that into you as a violation of pro-life they said you know what in

this case it's that big of an emergency that we have to suspend all our religious beliefs because science knows is better and that is what I call medical monotheism. So scientism inexorably leads to medical monotheism which means there's no heterodoxy. You can't diverge or dissent from the standard of care or you have to essentially be eliminated. And that's a that's really what happened. I was uh labeled a heretic and they said off with his head and essentially years of persecution because of you know my belief

that you should be able to breathe without a mask or you should be able to choose vitamin D and turmeric instead of you know a mandated uh pharmaceutical. >> It's really sad but on one hand I'm glad it happened and I'm going to tell you why. I want to just touch on this other organization. It's called CCDH. tell us about that organization and it's a very tiny organization. I think they have 15 staff. They're out of the UK, but they have influenced a very large population

in the US at least. Right. Yeah. They actually started in 2018 in order to affect the elections in the UK. There was a candidate Jeremy Corbyn and he was, you know, on the left and they were basically saying he's an anti-semite so we have to cancel him. I think later it was found that that probably wasn't true, but it was a very effective mechanism [clears throat] to oust him. So, originally it was the Labor Party in the UK that set this up for political reasons. And

then when the pandemic happened, they shifted gears immediately and they used the same techniques which included demonetizing opposition media. In the UK, it was called the Canary. >> And what does it stand for? Oh, it's the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is a overwhelming word given they basically, you know, spent many years uh inciting hatred against American uh free speech advocates who were all about, you know, medical choice and parental rights and religious freedoms. >> They were against hate. Well, that's great. That sounds like

a great organization to support digital hate, right? And that you're thinking, well, how does that connect to you? like how does that connect to health? Explain that to me. >> Yeah. So I think what it essentially is is it is what's known as um a cutout. So certain intelligence and government adjacent NOS are created so that they can essentially launder free speech suppression because we have this great thing in the US right called the constitution. And you're not allowed to say even if someone is lying

the constitution actually protects their speech. That's the farthest thing from me or any of the advocates like you know our dear colleague RFK Jr. were doing when they said hey we care about children's health and we believe informed consent and gold standard science. I don't think you can call that hate but they essentially used a playbook to try to characterize our speech as dangerous, irresponsible and even violent. And by doing that they put us in essentially a quasi uh criminal status so that then they could

deploy deplatforming demonetization and then even some uh you know threats of lawfare happened in the United States at one point against the disinfo dozen for supposedly wrongful death because someone might have read something that we had written and the the idea was oh they they didn't get their 10th jab so maybe we harmed them because you know they're life saving. and they're safe and effective. >> So, this organization somehow was able to influence all of the major social media platforms, right? Somehow influenced them to take

out certain influencers, not just about co if it was just about co they would have just took that out, but it took it down all of your stuff related to sunlight, walking, natural vitamins. I mean, like the whole thing, right? That's exactly a great point is that so greenmedinfo.com at present has 10,000 topics because I'm kind of an obsessive person when it comes to health information. I spent well it's been about 16 years in front of a computer looking through millions of abstracts from PubMed which

is the National Library of Medicine to find the ones that are the clinical pearls that show wow you know natural health actually has some science and you know maybe we should consider an alternative. So what they wanted to do is make it look like we only cared about vaccines. And we do have one database on vaccines. It has 1,400 studies and it shows that there are problems with safety and also efficacy claims on some of the vaccines. So that is essentially why they wanted to take

out my entire project and my life. >> Holy macro. I mean, I'm just fascinated by some of the terminology like their definition of misinformation, misinformation equals natural health type activities. And I just want to bring up one interesting point because if you just take a look at any at any nutritional bottle, there's going to be disclaimer there to the FDA saying this has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. So basically, the definition of

a drug is anything that does that. And so there's all these disclaimers because they actually captured the definition to if if you were to say broccoli can do anything for prevention of any disease, then that could be classified as disease. and especially if you're selling broccoli or broccoli pills and then all of a sudden you shift to the FDA now that FDA is going to go after you. But what's interesting is the manipulation of just words, right? Drugs, disease, um misinformation. Uh all of a sudden

natural health has now become terrorist. I mean, the reality is that in the state of Florida where I live, even today, unless you're a dietician or a physician, you can't actually recommend um let's say uh cherries for arthritis, even though Michigan State University found that it was more effective than ibuprofen, which actually has a huge toxicological risk profile. It's like vio actually has a lot of issues because uh that's a class D felony. um they they eliminated naturopaths, nutritionists and uh essentially you can't uh practice

and homeopaths natural medicine here it's considered uh dangerous and uh you know irrational and yet the basis of all medicine really came from indigenous traditions and so it's um remarkable but I think we know it has a lot to do with the fact that yeah exactly merc manual I have uh done a lot of reporting on 1899's merc manual It's amazing. It's full of natural healing items, you know, from glandulars to, you know, uh, herbs that were indigenous here. And, uh, so, you know, this is

a ongoing tension that has, you know, been going on for really decades and maybe over hundred years, right? >> You know, what's really cool about this terrible topic is the happy ending. And I think this whole stress that occurred with you and I think RFK was one of the dirty dozen as well, wasn't he? >> Yeah, he was put on the list and um as you were pointing out, it's kind of a happy ending story because look at where we find ourselves now. Oh god. Like

out of all the places they would not want him to be right over HHS like running the show. Wow. What a what a turn of events. How how ironic. And uh what I'm noticing too even with your your channel now because they actually replatformed you, right? They kind of said, "Okay, now you can come back in. We're we're I'm sure they gave you a lot of apologies and they were really sorry about that." And they probably, you know, made up the damage. I'm sure they did

that. >> Well, what's the most amazing about the reinstatement of the three accounts actually they took away from me 5 years ago is um actually four years ago was that they said that they looked at the community standards and they should never have removed our account, which is pretty remarkable given I have a federal civil rights lawsuit against um big tech for this very thing. So, they actually did us a really big favor by acknowledging that it was actually their Alphabet CEO uh a month before

the reinstatement who said it was government that essentially coerced them to do these things which is a convenient excuse because they're also looking for protection right now from the EU service digital services act and the UK online safety bill which is essentially big tech is feeling bullied by these censorship forces now even though they were the ones that deployed it at scale. Millions of Americans experienced this. But, you know, looking at things now restoratively, I'm very happy they've done that. It's a really good sign that

those who were defamed uh and deplatformed like myself are being restored, you know, which is an appropriate thing, I think, for them to do. >> Well, here's the happy ending into this whole thing, right? If it wasn't for what just occurred, I do not think we would have the explosion that I see right now in natural health. People want alternative. They want lifestyle changes. As you know, and a lot of other people know, 80 to 90% of most chronic disease related to lifestyle. Yet, we only

study the research is only 1.9% of that. So, it's a very underappreciated, ignored area in healthcare. Uh, but that being said, this is what people really want. They want to be able to use these natural things. They don't want to be on a polyfarm pharmacy of drugs. RFK right now where he is is um is cleaning house. And it's so funny because some people will say like, "Oh, he's not a doctor." Well, yeah. Well, that's cuz we need we need an attorney that could clean up

the the amount of unethical things that are going on in that uh department for years. The amount of corruption. We need to clean house. We do not need to keep things the same. Um, we spent what 4 point is it 4.9 trillion now on our healthcare and we have what one of the worst rated health care systems in the world. So here we got RFK in I mean it's just like such a turn of an event and he's cleaning stuff up and you and I are

are supporting that and so I think we've had some wins recently. You want to mention a couple wins that are going on recently? Well, I think you're absolutely correct that what's happened is that about a hundred times more people are awake right now to the importance of bodily sovereignty as a nonpartisan grassroots global movement because without the right to determine what gets put into your body forcibly or you know through nudges and coercion you really don't have any other civil liberties cuz bodily sovereignty is the

basis of all sovereignty. So I think that essentially what those who largely capitalized on this um egregious violation of I think it's essentially bodily sovereignty that occurred with the mRNA japs. you know, they're starting to wake up and realize that, wow, we can take back control of our health and our family's health and they're embracing natural medicine and lifestyle changes and mindset at scale in a way that I could never have imagined. So, we were just in Brussels launching the Make Europe Healthy Again Commission, which

was an amazing event. And there is absolutely I can see now a spark that's been lit in every country inspired by what's happening here. And uh I think that you know ultimately those who maybe were trying to do uh some harm or trying to profit off of the innocence and trust that people had in these institutions. They're starting to realize that, wow, we can take responsibility for our health and we can get empowered. And I'm just so happy to see it happen. >> They're hungry for

this. I mean, they're they they want um freedom to be able to use whatever they want for their health. >> Absolutely. I think that they appreciate it more than ever because um you know there are still some really intense mandatory vaccine schedules and um the pharmaceutical agenda is extremely entrenched. But when you look at even the statistics of how many people embrace natural medicine or food as medicine, it's really increasing exponentially. And so and you know in part also because of the incredible work you've been

doing. Uh it's amazing to see people go to you know media um social media etc to follow those they trust and I think that's really a beautiful thing. >> Big pharma is at the all-time low trust that they've ever been. I mean I think even in a couple years they've dropped like 28 points down even lower. What do you think the playbook is now? How are they going to be able to control the narrative? What what are they doing in attempts to control the narrative now?

Well, I think that you and I have both observed that certain influencers that are claiming that they're doing, you know, their service and their communications not because they're being paid, but just because they care so much about sharing the benefits of pharmaceuticals and vaccines and totally attacking natural health. It's it's clear that there's a lot of money under the table that's being exchanged. And um I know that recently there was even an investigative piece of Dr. Mike, which it was stunning that he claimed, hey, I

I'm not being paid by pharma, and yet there's a million dollar uh, you know, opensource example that pharma actually has him as a consultant. So, I think that's one of the ways that they're really trying to manipulate is going direct to to certain influencers. >> Yeah, I've noticed that there's just like a a wave of influencers that are coming out and talking about these talking points. They're not like blatant uh oh buy this drug. They're very carefully crafted messages that navigate through the waters and if

they're talking about let's say they want to support junk food, they're not going to say to eat junk food. They'll say there is no bad food. Uh you shouldn't demonize anyone food. As long as we have it in moderation and you exercise, I those corn flakes would be okay. They're actually attacking the competition. So, they're hardcore going after RFK, Maha. They're going after me, going after you, and they try to find something that we said on the internet a long time ago and take it out

of context and try to invalidate it. But what they don't realize is that they're just bringing more attention to the people are not stupid. They're bringing more attention to the issue and uh they end up helping our message and so they're going deeper and deeper in the ground. I think the what I would recommend reaching out to these people, what I would do if I were them is I would just uh listen to what people want, come clean, make up the damage, and focus on what

people want. They want to be healthy. What? Let's focus on that rather than trying to tear someone down. And also, people don't want you to take money from big industry or big corporations. They don't they're not going to trust you anymore once they find out. And unfortunately, 95% of all these influencers that are taking money are not disclosing it. And it's just a matter of time before they get found out because I think there's a $50,000 fine. So, unfortunately, they're going to be uh in big

trouble. But it's it's just all new right now. This is a new thing. This is a new way to control the media or at least attempts to control the media. And uh on the good note is it's really helping our cause of just wanting to do natural health and do it more of a grassroots because people can see through these things. >> I would agree because if they hadn't tried so hard to attack and defame and distort individuals like RFK Jr., there's no way that he

would have had the mass popular support that actually got him into the most powerful position to be able to actually implement the reforms that we all know we need. So I think that that playbook is now uh outdated and even the way that they've tried everything in their power to take me out and to try to hurt me. The reality is I have more people that have you know been with me on this journey like yourself that have provided me so much support. And what I

mean by that is spiritually that's the only thing that has gotten me through this is people that have cared who resonate with true statements and then they go ahead and they you know join this movement. And so I hope that we can get to a place where big pharma eventually realizes that you know what you don't necessarily need to make a million times your your your your you know profit margin you know by deceiving people. you can actually have an honest um business model where the

people you're working for, you know, patients, for example, consumers, you're actually trying to help their their bodies. And I mean, I know this is a little bit naive, but I really think maybe they'll join our movement. Maybe they'll embrace Maha, they'll have happier lives and families, and that they can, you know, do better for themselves in the world. That's what I know you and I really believe in, peace, and that's what we want. I just wish they used a much better picture of you because when

that picture that they used to push out there. I don't know where they found it, but it was like like you getting up in the morning and like here's [laughter] I'm like what? You could have used a much better picture. >> You know, I finally actually was able to get Wikipedia to use my professional picture to someone was helping me because they just do a screenshot to make you look as villainous as possible. But gosh, >> the reality is I'm not a villain. I'm actually a

pretty nice guy. You know, >> you're not just a nice guy. You're one of the most beautiful human beings I ever met. I mean, like you're just like the essence of you is just total caring and love. So, um I appreciate everything you've done. >> Well, thank you. And it's amazing because I feel the same about you. And I think that's the beauty of the what's happened is that people have come to really find their soul family. You know, with all of the stress and the

division they've tried to sew, it's really just brought us closer together and we're stronger than ever. So, I thank you so much. >> Thank you, Sarah. I appreciate it and uh we'll continue this conversation. >> Thanks so much.